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    10-14-2013, 05:26 PM
    One of the things that bothers me about the attitudes of most people towards "famous" past lives is the way people seem to be skeptical because of the fame of the individual, as though that individual intentionally got famous so as to have credit for later lives. Not to mention the fact that most famous individuals became famous only after their death, and that the idea of someone being historically known is a simple fact of encountering the works of other selves. I think the real controversy with claiming famous past lives is because our society puts fame on a pedestal and there are social suggestions that famous individuals are in some way "larger than life" and so when people suggest any claim to that socially recognizable activity that usually surrounds famous individuals there is an automatic ego rebuttal because of an expectation as to how that individual should be, and many assumptions are made about how famous people are.

    Many people I have seen with issues towards such claims usually cite that they think it is arrogant, unfair, egotistical, simply unlikely, narcissistic, etc for any individual to claim credit for work done in other lives because that would apprently mean some kind of authority for those works. It is either that, or there is skepticism because of no empirical verification. Regardless, it seems to come down to some argument of "likelihood" which results in a subjective standstill.

    To me, I do not see why it is any more likely for someone to have a past life as an individual with no historical record than to have a past life as someone who was historically recorded. I also do not understand why there seems to be this attitude that famous people are special in terms of reincarnation and why it is treated as such a phenomenal thing that a historical personage should be reincarnated. This is partly a western attitude, but it is all over the world.

    Then I think of the Dalai Lama, who is said to be the exact same individual reincarnating over and over to be the Dalai Lama (although this one is the last one). In Tibetan culture the idea that someone may be born and be discovered to be a Lamas, or Rinpoche, or the Master of a particular ashram or school, is commonplace. I, personally, find it incredibly intriguing to consider that every individual who has incarnated on this planet is an entity, a body/mind/spirit complex, and so the story of all of us, of our lives and of our relationships, extend well beyond just what occurs in one incarnative life.

    The story of you is limited only by what you accept as part of your story, and everyone has a story. Everything is energy and energy is never created or destroyed, but it journies, it travels, it experiences a story that is never ending and there are no gaps in the story, infinity is seamless.

    I would add that I retain a rather strong belief that everyone will have at least one famous incarnation, at least one life which will be a major contribution to the collective process of humanity, so I do not see why it should be treated as something which is exceptional. Some entities have already had such an incarnation, for some it will be in the future, but everyone gets a chance in the spotlight to do their thing and show themselves to the world throughout time and history, that is my sincere belief.

    Makes me think of this quote:

    "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.

    It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

    You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.

    We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.

    As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." - Marianna Williamson
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    Past lives are weird... - by Adonai One - 10-14-2013, 07:37 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by michael430 - 10-14-2013, 12:04 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-14-2013, 03:54 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Rhayader - 10-14-2013, 04:55 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-14-2013, 05:26 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-14-2013, 08:56 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by xise - 10-14-2013, 09:05 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-14-2013, 09:20 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by xise - 10-14-2013, 09:32 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-14-2013, 09:51 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by xise - 10-14-2013, 11:15 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-14-2013, 11:45 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by AnthroHeart - 10-15-2013, 02:54 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Bring4th_Austin - 10-14-2013, 11:48 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Karl - 10-15-2013, 12:00 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 12:37 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Aloysius - 10-15-2013, 01:43 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Adonai One - 10-15-2013, 02:16 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 01:52 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 07:00 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 02:41 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 10:00 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 10:09 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 02:21 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Adonai One - 10-15-2013, 02:46 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Hototo - 10-15-2013, 03:12 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by AnthroHeart - 10-15-2013, 12:05 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Hototo - 10-15-2013, 02:12 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Adonai One - 10-15-2013, 07:14 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by xise - 10-15-2013, 08:54 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 08:51 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Aureus - 10-15-2013, 01:05 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by AnthroHeart - 10-15-2013, 01:19 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by AnthroHeart - 10-15-2013, 02:31 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by GentleReckoning - 10-15-2013, 05:45 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by AnthroHeart - 10-15-2013, 05:50 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 09:06 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 09:20 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 09:24 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 09:25 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Brittany - 10-15-2013, 09:57 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 10:18 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 10:22 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 10:50 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 10:57 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by zenmaster - 10-15-2013, 10:34 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 11:02 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 11:11 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 10:50 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Adonai One - 10-15-2013, 11:03 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Unbound - 10-15-2013, 11:26 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 11:45 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Brittany - 10-15-2013, 11:47 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-15-2013, 11:57 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by GentleReckoning - 10-16-2013, 12:38 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Sagittarius - 10-16-2013, 12:42 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by GentleReckoning - 10-15-2013, 11:54 PM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Brittany - 10-16-2013, 01:27 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by michael430 - 10-16-2013, 11:17 AM
    RE: Past lives are weird... - by Adonai One - 10-18-2013, 05:56 AM

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