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    02-22-2009, 09:26 PM
    (02-22-2009, 07:54 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: I would concur that the entity is ultimately a unity which chooses and emphasizes a focus, but the entity, in order to be "an entity" at all, must need move through and identify with an experience of polarity.

    Yes. Third density is the density where we polarize. Of course this experience of polarity is crucial. I just question how much of that polarization within the system of spiritual evolution is consciously recognized. Therefore, I question people who claim to "be STO" or "be STS". I think those statements are practically meaningless.

    (02-22-2009, 07:54 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: What you suggest is not entirely the absence of morality as exhibited in a previous state of evolution but rather a transcendence of morality in an advanced evolutionary state of being. To be *amoral* would be a movement of regression, as far as I see it.

    I don't think it's a matter of semantics; I simply think we disagree. For me, morality is an arbitrary human construct based on the nature of third density society. Is it useful? Yes. But it's not "real". I don't think there's anything in the Law of One that implies there's such a thing as "morality" except in the sense that humans have behavioral conventions they've learned as an adaptive response to primal dangers in the world.

    In other words, morality is one more form of catalyst. From the precepts of morality (which, it must be stressed, we were taught) we enter into judgements that have catalytic payoff in our lives.

    (02-22-2009, 07:54 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Tangentially, this is why I believe Ra calls the Law of Free Will the Law of Confusion. Intrinsic to the nature of the faculty of free will is confusion - to utilize free will implies (and inevitably produces) confusion about the nature of the ground of being, about infinity and the nature of the all self.

    I agree. On a fundamental level, we cannot have the experience of being separate from the Creator without this causing a great deal of confusion. That's because our separation from the Creator is not in any sense real - or, at least, there is a perspective available to us that is much less complex, complicated, and confusing.

    jeremy6d Wrote:Again, I would be *very, very* careful in pigeonholing oneself into a polarized identity. In doing so, you pile constructs (if not judgments) on yourself that can only color your exploration of yourself. Why not just look at yourself without the lens of STO/STS? Instead of understanding where you are in the game, why not understand yourself on your own terms?

    (02-22-2009, 07:54 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: We are in a polarized reality whose polarized nature will continue for quite some time. Polarity, predicated upon the veil, makes evolution move, and is, as Ra says, the "crux" upon which turns the creation. This should not, imho, be de-emphasized as one would de-emphasize their racial identity or career-identity or any of those more gross and limited, transient, and temporal identities.

    So what would it mean to "emphasize" polarity?

    Polarity is a way of thinking about our daily, incarnate experiences in a larger, cosmic context. Polarity is not an identity until (A) you've actually polarized beyond the criteria, and (B) you have a conscious understanding of your polarization, which I doubt any of us have since we're still incarnate.

    My point is, since you don't make the Choice consciously, none of us *really* knows whether we're polarizing STO or STS. And it makes even *less* sense to say that you "are STO" or "are STS". The upside of that is you don't have to worry about it - just be.

    Good thoughts, Gary. Let me know if I've neglected a point you thought was crucial.

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    Biased view of STS...and INFINITY - by Chaotikmind - 01-09-2009, 06:07 AM
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