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    GentleReckoning (Offline)

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    12-18-2013, 07:08 PM
    (12-18-2013, 04:25 PM)Tanner Wrote:
    (12-18-2013, 03:12 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote:
    (12-18-2013, 05:43 AM)ChickenInSpace Wrote: I found that if presented with alot of 'slow' interactions where people take forever to explain something, it isn't per se uncomfortable or dissatisfying. It's what you have (or I have) made of it rather than what it really is.
    Some people simply are so different that their train of thought or explanations are simply roundabout or more based on creating a setting to experience the information instead of going to the simple core.

    Learning to give people the time they need to present their thoughts/ideas for these things will make interactions with people feel more giving and likely the other person will feel less stressed out by the interaction as well.

    Since you've been experiencing this for a very long time, maybe there is a lesson still unlearned about patience and/or resting in the moment?

    That's true, but a lot of people feel that they are being validated as a human being when someone is being dishonest with them and pretending to be interested as they prattle on endlessly. I've begun calling it preaching. People love to think that they are converting someone to their ideas when in actuality they are letting someone else validate them. As you feel worse, they feel better. I've done this with tanner and an getting better at applying it to correct situations.

    I simply say: "you're not engaging me as you haven't included me into your conversation at all. May I have a moment to present my perspective? "


    I agree with what you are saying, however I would say philosophy has one of the widest spectrums of thought and there are many pathways and trains of thought to follow. Some people like to follow short trains, others like long winding ones.

    I think it is good that you are recognizing your interests and what about conversation engages you, that is knowing yourself. I also think it is good that you have interest in seeking those who are more of like mind, that can certainly be beneficial.

    My main thought here is that, as you say, the thoughts of others may be so different that they are simply unappealing pathways to take through mind. Yet, I would say it is a profound truth that even though others may take more scenic routes with their descriptions, they are not wrong for doing so, just as you are not wrong for embracing simplicity. Personally, I strive to accomodate both in my thoughts as I feel both are relevant. That is just me, of course.

    The descriptions others use don't always work for us, and yes sometimes people are looking for validation, but really, it seems you are too. Perhaps I am projecting, but it seems to me that maybe you find long winded explanations exasperating because you are still attached to the validity of the simple ones. Forgive me if I am incorrect aha

    What do you think? Do you feel there is anything which one may gain from the interaction between simplicity and complexity?

    I feel it is as simple as math. There are many paths through which you can accomplish a simple thing. Many people will have gotten very good at a complex thought form which gets them to a certain point.

    Having no spiritual background at all and largely being exposed to the simplicity of the LOO I can look at their convoluted path to a certain point and simplify, clarify, and broaden their thinking so as to allow them a much more useful tool to apply to their own life. Spiritual people are usually open and aware enough to realize accurate thinking wherever it comes from.

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    Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-17-2013, 09:47 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Sagittarius - 12-17-2013, 09:59 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Turtle - 12-17-2013, 10:17 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-17-2013, 10:25 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by AnthroHeart - 12-17-2013, 10:47 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by kycahi - 12-18-2013, 02:43 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by reeay - 12-17-2013, 11:18 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-18-2013, 01:15 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-18-2013, 04:08 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Melissa - 12-18-2013, 04:08 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Plenum - 12-18-2013, 04:59 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by ChickenInSpace - 12-18-2013, 05:43 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-18-2013, 03:12 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-18-2013, 04:25 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-18-2013, 07:08 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by ScottK - 12-18-2013, 03:58 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-18-2013, 09:00 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by reeay - 12-18-2013, 09:12 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-18-2013, 09:20 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by zenmaster - 12-18-2013, 09:43 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by reeay - 12-18-2013, 10:10 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by zenmaster - 12-18-2013, 10:26 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 12:56 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by zenmaster - 12-19-2013, 01:03 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 01:14 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by zenmaster - 12-19-2013, 01:33 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 10:30 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Sagittarius - 12-19-2013, 01:23 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-19-2013, 04:04 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by ChickenInSpace - 12-19-2013, 04:36 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by isis - 12-18-2013, 10:37 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Horuseus - 12-19-2013, 11:05 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by isis - 12-19-2013, 12:20 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by reeay - 12-19-2013, 01:29 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by isis - 12-19-2013, 01:39 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 04:10 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-19-2013, 04:46 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-19-2013, 04:22 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 04:37 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Unbound - 12-19-2013, 05:00 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 04:52 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-19-2013, 06:03 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by AnthroHeart - 12-19-2013, 08:48 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Fastidious Emanations - 12-20-2013, 02:34 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by zenmaster - 12-20-2013, 02:35 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Fastidious Emanations - 12-20-2013, 02:47 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by zenmaster - 12-20-2013, 03:03 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Fastidious Emanations - 12-20-2013, 11:44 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by GentleReckoning - 12-20-2013, 05:55 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Plenum - 12-20-2013, 08:58 PM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by BrownEye - 12-21-2013, 07:57 AM
    RE: Generally dis-satisfied with this illusion. - by Melissa - 12-21-2013, 08:04 AM

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