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    12-30-2013, 11:06 PM
    Adonai One, you are right on this! I think the same. I tried to express this here when I wrote:

    Quote:Why don't just live in the illusion in trust that there is no right and wrong and every act is a service to the Infinite creator?
    Source: Secrets of the Left Hand Path


    (12-30-2013, 07:59 PM)Adonai One Wrote: The key to becoming harvestable is not discipline, it is not attainment, it is not changing the self: It is simply letting everything go, having faith everything will be well and seeing everything in harmony as it is.

    Yes! Erich Fromm (look here for some information: Erich Fromm) describes it as the "being-mode" in his book "To have or to be". Being in the moment, letting oneself go, seeing the light, enjoying the moment - without a purpose to it. This is what Ra means with this passage:

    Quote:74.9 ▶ Questioner: Let me see if I have a wrong opinion here of the effect of disciplines of the personality. I was assuming that a discipline of the personality to, shall we say, have a balanced attitude toward a single fellow entity would properly clear and balance, to some extent, the orange-ray energy center. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. We cannot say that you speak incorrectly but merely less than completely. The disciplined personality, when faced with an other-self, has all centers balanced according to its unique balance. Thusly the other-self looks in a mirror seeing itself.

    (...) 74.11 ▶ Questioner: Now, what I am trying to get at is how these disciplines affect the energy centers and the power, shall I say, of the white magician. Could you, will you tell me how that works?

    Ra: I am Ra. The heart of the discipline of the personality is threefold. One, know yourself. Two, accept yourself. Three, become the Creator.

    The third step is that step which, when accomplished, renders one the most humble servant of all, transparent in personality and completely able to know and accept other-selves. In relation to the pursuit of the magical working the continuing discipline of the personality involves the adept in knowing itself, accepting itself, and thus clearing the path towards the great indigo gateway to the Creator. To become the Creator is to become all that there is. There is then no personality in the sense with which the adept begins its learn/teaching. As the consciousness of the indigo ray becomes more crystalline, more work may be done; more may be expressed from intelligent infinity.

    If one is in the moment, one can transcend this feeling of separateness. One could polarize 100% positive in the next moment. No will or seeking is necessary, just letting go of all things, i.e. becoming "all that there is." When one experiences others in this way, one feels that they are not separate. One gets from the outside to the core. You may ask yourself sometimes: "Why is this person always so mean against me?" If you get to the core, you discover that he/she went through really bad stuff and just wants to be loved. You see that there is only love and others are equal to yourself. The first step of the discipline of personality can only be achieved if one is in the present moment.

    One important matter in this respect is to be honest or to be "transparent" like Ra says it. Tommy Emmanuel, a musical "creator", describes this greatly:


    It is as simple as that: Being honest to others is a necessary condition for the situation that one accepts oneself. This means that if one cannot be totally honest/"transparent" to other people about oneself, one doesn't accept at least certain aspects of oneself. Accepting oneself means telling the truth like Tommy says it. This is the second step of the discipline of the personality.

    If this is done, to become the creator means to be creative, to create someting. Ra is in a way funny here because it refers to the literary sense of "creator". Not an abstract concept, Ra wants to say this as easiliy and directly as possible. Erich Fromm describes this in the following way:

    Quote:A third way of attaining union lies in creative activity, be it that of the artist, or of the artisan. In any kind of creative work the creating person unites himself with his material, which represents the world outside of himself. (...)
    The unity achieved in productive work is not interpersonal; the unity achieved in orgiastic fusion [=the first way of attaining union of which Fromm talks in the book] is transitory; the unity achieved by conformity [=the second way] is only pseudo-unity. Hence, they are only partial answers to the problem of existence [=the experience of separateness]. The full answer lies in the achievement of interpersonal union, of fusion with another person, in love.


    (12-30-2013, 10:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Because it's complete and utter bullshit a1. There simply is no unconditional acceptance in 3D, nor unconditional harmony in everything, nor unconditional true experience of unity. That's how the conclusion is reached.
    3D - this illusion - is constructed to impose limitations which will deny these.

    There are limitations, but you can overcome these in 3D. I think this is the reason why Ra chanelled the Law of One. The solution lies in the experience of the present moment.


    I don't find it good that personal blockages are considered to be a valid argument here. One may use this as an argument - although everybody has blockages - but then be sensible and nice to the other one...
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    A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 07:59 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by AnthroHeart - 12-30-2013, 08:02 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 08:07 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 08:12 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 08:15 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 08:19 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Plenum - 12-30-2013, 08:29 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 08:29 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 08:35 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 09:26 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 09:38 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 09:40 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 09:56 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by isis - 12-30-2013, 09:50 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 09:54 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 10:01 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 10:29 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by xise - 12-30-2013, 10:18 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-30-2013, 10:23 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Poet - 12-30-2013, 11:06 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-30-2013, 11:40 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Poet - 12-31-2013, 12:06 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-31-2013, 12:12 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-31-2013, 12:15 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-31-2013, 12:23 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-31-2013, 12:29 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by zenmaster - 12-31-2013, 12:32 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by GentleReckoning - 12-31-2013, 03:05 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Adonai One - 12-31-2013, 11:08 AM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by GentleReckoning - 12-31-2013, 01:51 PM
    RE: A finding I wish to share. - by Bat - 12-31-2013, 11:25 AM

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