01-05-2014, 08:35 PM
(01-05-2014, 07:02 PM)Tanner Wrote: Isn't it contradictory to attempt to urge others to think for themselves for the sake of free will yet to offer apparently objective observations without any detail or body of thought with which to assess the concept? Isn't that a deceptive form of luring? Isn't that an infringement?
It certainly isn't open, honest communication of the self to other self.
What concerns me is that when people DO think for themselves Immanuel closes up, cites the Law of Responsibility or Confusion, and goes on the defense of his discoveries, but yet insists on their importance. He always says he is open to being wrong or challenged or delusional, yet he keeps secret the key fulcrums of all his workings and only offers out surface details when he feels it is in the interest of his ideal to cause people to think.
I do not doubt Immanuel's intention to do good by any means, but it is my honest opinion that he is operating with methods of interaction he has internally out grown, but externally still seems to be attached to. Perhaps I am completely wrong, but I am thinking for myself and that is what he wants, no?
I will admit that personally what bothers me about Immanuel's approach is that it always seems communication is one-sided. I never feel like I am having a discussion, I feel like I am fencing with only one person at a time communicating, back and forth. While that is a perfectly valid form of communication, it isn't my favorite form aha
As I've posted earlier... "he is motivated by a belief that people should be allowed the opportunity to find out and analyze the truth for themselves (a view I share), a fear of judgement and avoidance of conflict with others."
I have seen that a part of him feels threatened when his ideas are challenged. He has the capacity to discuss and explain himself more clearly, as he does it with me daily, but in a social context he seems to block and close himself because of an unresolved fear. It's an issue he has to work with and balance, and although it may seem otherwise, from my perspective at the very least he is actually progressing.
I guess he should be able to reply for himself from now on, if he wishes to. I'm not one to play the intermediary all the time. I've contributed my perspective, now it's for him to open up and stand up for himself in front of a crowd that wants explanation. I won't rob him of that catalyst

(01-05-2014, 07:21 PM)rie Wrote: I guess Manny's intuitive info/philosophy is like learning about Manny and where he's at. He could use law of responsibility bc we're not going to learn about Manny for Manny, that's absurd.
If that is all you see in his threads, then that is alright and that too is a valid perspective. We take what we need and are ready for from each other.