Meditation

[zenmaster]

Isis when you understand that "a need" is always due to lack of acceptance, then you can see how suffering is always due to lack of acceptance.

imo even though 1 may think it's possible to have need(s), like to grow/learn & become stronger or w/e, doesn't mean it is. even though 1 may think suffering is futile & just the direct, negative, result of something doesn't mean it is

it's your opinion that suffering is always due to a lack of acceptance. it's my opinion that it rarely (if ever) is so w/e i think it's time for us to just agree to disagree on this 1

would love to kno what this quote means to u:

in your modes of perception you would perhaps more properly view the seeding of the creation as that of growth from the center or core outward.

OK well at least we're clear now.
I interpret that quote to mean that the center is like the basic principles whereas the periphery is the pioneering or refining efforts. Ra also said that the axis of that creation is 3D.

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I think that is a pretty important distinction to make aha

that may be the case, but in the context used (in quotes) we were talking about the suffering condition which is an unconscious reaction, a dramatization of pain, due to displacement by an unaccepted aspect of self.

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If we have physical pain, how do we accept that to where we do not suffer? I guess an example is those monks who lit themselves on fire and die as martyrs that way. It does not seem to cause them discomfort.

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Suffering is due to lack of acceptance in the first place silly.

Suffering due to physical pain is typically due to ignored catalyst or of a particular allegorical nature that reinforces a direction of seeking which leads in the direction of further balancing catalyst. Once that pain-as-catalyst is worked with, and accepted, it simply becomes unnecessary. And if somehow the root cause of pain is not allegorical, and not a cause for catalyst due to lack of acceptance, then there will be no need for suffering due to its presence.