03-20-2014, 05:27 PM
(03-18-2014, 01:56 PM)Tanner Wrote: In my eyes, he has provided a catalyst which has clearly shown the discomfort most have with the idea that there are aspects of nature and reality which are predatory or antagonistic.I have found the first step to integration being that of awareness. Denial of the possibility allows for the continuing of experience that may not be in the best interests of forward motion. You would not believe how many people will put up fights in defense of their own 'demons', I assume because of how well they integrate with the ego.
(03-19-2014, 08:48 AM)Fang Wrote: This false dichotomy of STO/STS hurts people greatly and promotes all sorts of black and white, us vs them thought patterns which aren't all that helpful or beneficialInteresting how we chose to incarnate into an experience of duality and separation. Was it really only to remember what we were? Or could there be understanding to gain within the concept of separation? I suppose a wanderer would need to remember who they are and what they came here to do, but what about the rest?
(03-19-2014, 10:51 AM)Jade Wrote: Sometimes we can be very quick to dismiss realities that may involve any sort of negative projection, and instead overcompensate with positive projection.Interesting how experience of greater reality is so often mocked or criticized by those stuck in the lesser reality.
(03-19-2014, 11:15 AM)xise Wrote: It's just strange to dismiss things from being discussed because they can't be proven.It isn't strange in the least. It is simply conditioning. It is very interesting to see the reactions of those that rely on belief that is reinforced by a lack of experience. (reading a lot does not constitute experience) I have done my own experiments with this, stopping frames of public videos to show the satanic themes in plain view (I do not believe in satan) and I see their reaction go from ignoring/not seeing (negative trance) to saying it is something else (positive trance) to total confusion at realization and asking why would anyone put that there? They are put there because of the power of symbols over the unconscious, and the conscious is conditioned to not be aware.
While many have opened up to the universe and proven other realities to themselves, it is quite another thing to think it can be proven to others. Those not open must rely on belief.
(03-19-2014, 11:15 AM)xise Wrote: If indeed these warnings are true, they should be explored.Who can spot what they can't see? Awareness is key, and lacking anything beyond the gross senses there is no exploration.
(03-19-2014, 02:19 PM)Poet Wrote: the question is how to interact with people perceived as negative on a personal daily-life level.This is a function of the Law of Attraction. Not really the same as threatening the status quo of interdimensional species. GWV is putting together a book if I understand this correctly, and this book will have certain info that can be considered a threat to current balance. This would be the reason he experiences intrusions. If he was simply doing all of his work for his own gain, keeping everything to himself, well he then is working in alignment with so-called Orions and why would he be interfered with.
(03-19-2014, 02:26 PM)Tanner Wrote: There is a fair amount in the Ra Material dedicated to the discussion of the apparent 5th density entity which was offering the group various forms of negativity or enslavement in order to either stop the group or destabilize them.Pretty much all I have met that deal in multiple dimensions describe the importance of protection. Even Dolores who only uses hypnosis has learned of the importance of protection.
The LOO transcripts describe energizing dizziness as a way to possibly get someone to fall in front of a bus. I have found that many of the people I work on that have dark energies around the head, cords or other forms of attachment about the head, will tell me after the work is done that they used to experience pain or dizziness of the head. The descriptions in the transcripts are real and tangible.
(03-19-2014, 03:50 PM)reeay Wrote: In the L/L experience, they were targeted due to the nature of their work, which was to receive a message that may potentially change how we understand self and the process of our vibrational uplifting. In this context, I would not be surprised that they were targeted. However, due to such experiences they were able to become more aware of their own imbalances and necessity for work. And so, is the purpose to prevent such attacks by eliminating the external factors that lead to distress or to interpret the experience in a light that leads to growth promotion?And how did this experience come about? They only became aware of these issues as a result of getting the info firsthand in English. Would they have ever become aware of this without Mr Obvious (Ra) telling them directly?
(03-19-2014, 11:14 PM)reeay Wrote: Interpretation of catalyst yeah. You can accept catalyst and interpret catalyst positively by understanding and accepting self.. that leads to balancing (integration)... or you can ignore/deny it or you can control catalyst etc.,.Now this is very good. This thread has some strong denial in it. I find that refusing intrusion is not the same as refusing catalyst. Accepting firstly that catalyst is real, then making a conscious decision as to how best to deal with that catalyst. In my case I finally got around to using shielding, and it has actually been a huge learning experience. It is like the difference between driving with or without a windshield. You might be able to comfortably move forward at a very slow pace without the windscreen, but once you try to pick up the pace it becomes too uncomfortable and possibly even dangerous.
By becoming aware of these things that would attempt to offer service not conducive to health, I have integrated the knowledge and ability to decide consciously whether to accept that offer. I have become aware enough to sense when an offer is made. Nowadays it can almost be described as a bomb going off when a negative introduces itself. Almost like an audible boom.
Somewhere in the transcripts it will describe how the awakened individual will be able to create their own catalyst, more than likely no longer existing within the chaos of unneeded catalyst. I will say, it is quite an improvement over being half asleep.
The other thing I have learned. When a person has come to a certain point, there can be what I call an investment. This means that the person will have a quite powerful automatic protection in place because of high frequency vested interests. This allows for a much more peaceful coexistence. I am sure someone will project their personal concept of self importance onto this comment.

Also, I find the STS/STO descriptions useless. Everyone labels what is natural STS. Those actively engaged in survival are not STS, they are simply trying to survive in the state they exist within.