(02-01-2014, 02:55 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Ra says several times that the spirit is a shuttle, but they also say that the spirit is, post-veil, complex. What's complex about a shuttle? It sounds like "a simple and unified concept."
Probably, the definition of what a 'complex' is should be considered in its deeper nuance.
According to Merriam-Webster, one of the definitions of 'complex' is as follows - "a whole made up of complicated or interrelated parts; e.g., the military-industrial complex".
With the above definition in place, I think the following quotes now make potentially more refined sense, in terms of adumbrating the probable meaning of 'complex'.
Quote:30.2 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define mind, body, and spirit separately?
Ra: I am Ra. These terms are all simplistic descriptive terms which equal a complex of energy focuses; the body, as you call it, being the material of the density which you experience at a given space/time or time/space; this complex of materials being available for distortions of what you would call physical manifestation.
The mind is a complex which reflects the inpourings of the spirit and the up-pourings of the body complex. It contains what you know as feelings, emotions, and intellectual thoughts in its more conscious complexities. Moving further down the tree of mind we see the intuition which is of the nature of the mind more in contact or in tune with the total beingness complex. Moving down to the roots of mind we find the progression of consciousness which gradually turns from the personal to the racial memory, to the cosmic influxes, and thus becomes a direct contactor of that shuttle which we call the spirit complex.
This spirit complex is the channel whereby the inpourings from all of the various universal, planetary, and personal inpourings may be funneled into the roots of consciousness and whereby consciousness may be funneled to the gateway of intelligent infinity through the balanced intelligent energy of body and mind.
You will see by this series of definitive statements that mind, body, and spirit are inextricably intertwined and cannot continue, one without the other. Thus we refer to the mind/body/spirit complex rather than attempting to deal with them separately, for the work, shall we say, that you do during your experiences is done through the interaction of these three components, not through any one.
Quote:89.20 Questioner: You stated that each archetype is a concept complex. Would you please define what you mean by that statement?
Ra: I am Ra. Upon the face of it such a definition is without merit, being circular. A concept complex is a complex of concepts just as a molecule is a complex structure made up of more than one type of energy nexus or atom. Each atom within a molecule is its unique identity and, by some means, can be removed from the molecule. The molecule of water can, by chemical means, be caused to separate into hydrogen and oxygen. Separately they cannot be construed to equal water. When formed in the molecular structure which exemplifies water the two are irrefragably water.
Just in this way each archetype has within it several root atoms of organizational being. Separately the overall structure of the complex cannot be seen. Together the concept complex is irrefragably one thing. However, just as it is most useful in grasping the potentials in your physical systems of the constituting nature of water, so in grasping the nature of an archetype it is useful to have a sense of its component concepts.
(02-03-2014, 01:12 PM)Namaste Wrote:(02-01-2014, 02:55 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Ra says several times that the spirit is a shuttle, but they also say that the spirit is, post-veil, complex. What's complex about a shuttle? It sounds like "a simple and unified concept."
Could the intended usage/meaning of the word complex be different as to what you assume?
Ra doesn't use the term as a synonym for complicated, but more so for 'structured', 'layered' or 'relationship'.
Oooppss.....just saw this post after posting mine
