03-04-2009, 02:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-04-2009, 02:38 AM by AwakenedOneness.)
ChaoticMind,
Firstly, let me express my deep gratitude to you for starting this thread and for contributing so much to everyone here. I feel many have grown much through the exchange…I certainly have. I seek to give/serve back to you as well. Feel my love for you brother! Secondly, in re-reading many of your early responses in order to attempt to answer your latest question about the astral travel, I clearly see you are an incredibly wise and intelligent man indeed! You show clear insight and great awareness. You are far along your path and seem to walk it with commitment and conviction. I commend you for walking it impeccably (without corruption into “evil/bad” behaviors) which is a key challenge for your path given the temptation for abuse of power.
As to the advice you seek then about the “failed attempts or shutting down of astral travel”, I advise you to strongly think, consider, reflect, meditate, and seek guidance about the experience you describe in your first post:
ChaoticMind: “Do you realize that we feel the same things as STO when feeling the raw power of the source? (years ago before knowing about TLOO i used to call intelligent energy the source) I guess most of you never felt that, being surrounded by light for hours, reward of a pretty long , intensive , and chaotic path for me... filled with raw power for month before the feeling fades .”
Try asking your soul/higher-self/spirit or Unity/Oneness/God to give you further understanding about these experiences in sober meditation/silence. Much may be revealed. That is if you do such practices. I’m so used to the STO orientation it’s hard for me to get out of my box. If you don’t do these, then use your genius intellect, ponder, contemplate, consider, reflect and analyze part.
There is also these “bids for power”. And as you well know and wrote about the callings/contacts, they come with a heavy price…often destructive. I believe you still have side-effects. These relate to the feelings you got when you attempted the 15 times.
The way I see it is this: There is basically a “struggle for your soul” going on. Your soul may very well have chosen an STS polarity path, but I believe it has in mind for this incarnation to NOT be controlled by anyone (other entities/non-physical beings) that would try to keep it separate from it’s journey back to unity/source/oneness. Instead, it desire’s and has will for you to “do it all yourself” because it very well knows the potential dangers of any reliance on “others”. It desires to be harvested/graduate. You clearly stated your intent and knowledge/wisdom in this regard. Short advice is the same you gave yourself: rely only on your self, Soul, and Oneness.
Putting this all together, the failed astral attempts become more clear: Your soul is intentionally blocking you in going there and doing it because it has no desire to put you at risk/in danger of getting entangled/contacted by the entities there that would attempt to control you. You’ve freed yourself from contracts and controls and don’t want to risk struggling with it/them again. The feelings you described are basically a dissonance between your personal will/desire butting heads or conflicting with your soul (or higher self’s) will and desire…that combined with the aftereffects or consequences of your “bids for power” having resulted in a vibrational frequency of “you here” now being quite different and incompatible with your soul (“you there”). In short then, my advice is: simply trust your soul knows best and don’t go there…don’t try. If you were STO, I’d advise you to drop the idea of control because it is folly and surrender to your soul. Being STS I’d rephrase it as: realize what you truly want and that astral travel isn’t it, therefore control your mind better and silence it’s thoughts and desires to astral travel
Hope that has value for you – God bless you…best of luck… you are going to need it my friend
PS The other part in your post about “avoid/reject "Evil"” and why people do it…YES INDEED…I agree and see it the same way. The problem is that because they reject it so strongly, if you point it out to them, or try to teach about it, they totally reject the notion/idea!
Ha ha.- ironic and paradoxical. Luckily rejection/resisting works it’s own way out in time…what you resist persists.
ChaoticMind, I forgot the most importan advice I had for you: As I said in my last post at the beginning, you are providing great amounts of service to others by interacting with people here. Be careful! If you aren't careful you are going to mess up your 95% STS thing by doing to much STO! HeheheheHahahah LOL
Firstly, let me express my deep gratitude to you for starting this thread and for contributing so much to everyone here. I feel many have grown much through the exchange…I certainly have. I seek to give/serve back to you as well. Feel my love for you brother! Secondly, in re-reading many of your early responses in order to attempt to answer your latest question about the astral travel, I clearly see you are an incredibly wise and intelligent man indeed! You show clear insight and great awareness. You are far along your path and seem to walk it with commitment and conviction. I commend you for walking it impeccably (without corruption into “evil/bad” behaviors) which is a key challenge for your path given the temptation for abuse of power.
As to the advice you seek then about the “failed attempts or shutting down of astral travel”, I advise you to strongly think, consider, reflect, meditate, and seek guidance about the experience you describe in your first post:
ChaoticMind: “Do you realize that we feel the same things as STO when feeling the raw power of the source? (years ago before knowing about TLOO i used to call intelligent energy the source) I guess most of you never felt that, being surrounded by light for hours, reward of a pretty long , intensive , and chaotic path for me... filled with raw power for month before the feeling fades .”
Try asking your soul/higher-self/spirit or Unity/Oneness/God to give you further understanding about these experiences in sober meditation/silence. Much may be revealed. That is if you do such practices. I’m so used to the STO orientation it’s hard for me to get out of my box. If you don’t do these, then use your genius intellect, ponder, contemplate, consider, reflect and analyze part.
There is also these “bids for power”. And as you well know and wrote about the callings/contacts, they come with a heavy price…often destructive. I believe you still have side-effects. These relate to the feelings you got when you attempted the 15 times.
The way I see it is this: There is basically a “struggle for your soul” going on. Your soul may very well have chosen an STS polarity path, but I believe it has in mind for this incarnation to NOT be controlled by anyone (other entities/non-physical beings) that would try to keep it separate from it’s journey back to unity/source/oneness. Instead, it desire’s and has will for you to “do it all yourself” because it very well knows the potential dangers of any reliance on “others”. It desires to be harvested/graduate. You clearly stated your intent and knowledge/wisdom in this regard. Short advice is the same you gave yourself: rely only on your self, Soul, and Oneness.
Putting this all together, the failed astral attempts become more clear: Your soul is intentionally blocking you in going there and doing it because it has no desire to put you at risk/in danger of getting entangled/contacted by the entities there that would attempt to control you. You’ve freed yourself from contracts and controls and don’t want to risk struggling with it/them again. The feelings you described are basically a dissonance between your personal will/desire butting heads or conflicting with your soul (or higher self’s) will and desire…that combined with the aftereffects or consequences of your “bids for power” having resulted in a vibrational frequency of “you here” now being quite different and incompatible with your soul (“you there”). In short then, my advice is: simply trust your soul knows best and don’t go there…don’t try. If you were STO, I’d advise you to drop the idea of control because it is folly and surrender to your soul. Being STS I’d rephrase it as: realize what you truly want and that astral travel isn’t it, therefore control your mind better and silence it’s thoughts and desires to astral travel

Hope that has value for you – God bless you…best of luck… you are going to need it my friend

PS The other part in your post about “avoid/reject "Evil"” and why people do it…YES INDEED…I agree and see it the same way. The problem is that because they reject it so strongly, if you point it out to them, or try to teach about it, they totally reject the notion/idea!

ChaoticMind, I forgot the most importan advice I had for you: As I said in my last post at the beginning, you are providing great amounts of service to others by interacting with people here. Be careful! If you aren't careful you are going to mess up your 95% STS thing by doing to much STO! HeheheheHahahah LOL