06-13-2014, 04:15 AM
Thank you isis for posting this transcript, I liked reading it a lot 
Although I find myself mostly in agreement, especially with the statements regarding intrinsic unity (oneness is oneness; it is only our perception of it which differs from a density of experience to another), I can't help but notice some emphasis was put on concepts like "lessons", "process" and "work". Although it is widely accepted in human culture that there is a path to follow to reach a certain level of awareness of unity, I tend to believe it is not always the most efficient and self-aware way to experience unity. It is my understanding and experience there is no work to do; in fact, all which is required is an awareness of the present moment and of the self.
Maharshi was quoted very nicely in the transcript, and I would add one of the key questions he asked himself and his students was "Who am I" - the answer to all questions about unity lay there. For these people we call "enlightened" realized there is no work, there is no path, there is just the self and the experience of this reality which is just as real as anything else, if only an abstraction of the cosmic mind. This experience is desired and what we make of it is our own. There is nothing to ascend to, there is nothing to transcend, for we are who we are. We simply forgot for a moment, to allow the experience of limitation and discover how it unfolds. Yet followers asked their gurus for a path, asked them for lessons; they were used to methods of will, you see, and still sought a user's manual to reach awareness, something they believed they had to attain, for indeed if they could not currently perceive it, it must have been something out of their grasp! And so simple methods were given, all ways to connect to the self and see what had been there all along. Those methods are optional, of course. We must not forget.
In truth, I find that it is the people who still nurture a mentality of attainment that reject the "illusion", as they call it. It is the people who live in separation who seek this peak, as they cannot currently bridge the gap between their human experience and the disembodied experience. For the ones who see everything as one, for the ones that see it is only a matter of perspective; there is no illusion, there is nowhere to ascend to. There is no work to do or absolve, there is no path to walk or reject, there are no lessons to learn or avoid. There is only the experience and what we make of it is for us to decide. We have our desires and they unfold in front of us; we choose what meaning to attribute to them. And as it's been said, there is no right or wrong choice.
Although I find myself mostly in agreement, especially with the statements regarding intrinsic unity (oneness is oneness; it is only our perception of it which differs from a density of experience to another), I can't help but notice some emphasis was put on concepts like "lessons", "process" and "work". Although it is widely accepted in human culture that there is a path to follow to reach a certain level of awareness of unity, I tend to believe it is not always the most efficient and self-aware way to experience unity. It is my understanding and experience there is no work to do; in fact, all which is required is an awareness of the present moment and of the self.
Maharshi was quoted very nicely in the transcript, and I would add one of the key questions he asked himself and his students was "Who am I" - the answer to all questions about unity lay there. For these people we call "enlightened" realized there is no work, there is no path, there is just the self and the experience of this reality which is just as real as anything else, if only an abstraction of the cosmic mind. This experience is desired and what we make of it is our own. There is nothing to ascend to, there is nothing to transcend, for we are who we are. We simply forgot for a moment, to allow the experience of limitation and discover how it unfolds. Yet followers asked their gurus for a path, asked them for lessons; they were used to methods of will, you see, and still sought a user's manual to reach awareness, something they believed they had to attain, for indeed if they could not currently perceive it, it must have been something out of their grasp! And so simple methods were given, all ways to connect to the self and see what had been there all along. Those methods are optional, of course. We must not forget.
In truth, I find that it is the people who still nurture a mentality of attainment that reject the "illusion", as they call it. It is the people who live in separation who seek this peak, as they cannot currently bridge the gap between their human experience and the disembodied experience. For the ones who see everything as one, for the ones that see it is only a matter of perspective; there is no illusion, there is nowhere to ascend to. There is no work to do or absolve, there is no path to walk or reject, there are no lessons to learn or avoid. There is only the experience and what we make of it is for us to decide. We have our desires and they unfold in front of us; we choose what meaning to attribute to them. And as it's been said, there is no right or wrong choice.
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