06-16-2014, 02:06 AM
I feel I need to a use an analogy to compare Adonai's past behavior which I think it is okay, but how this latest behavior is NOT okay.
Previously on this website, Adonai came up with a lot of theories on the Ra Material, extrapolations, and stuff which I presume he just made up (his own philosophy). I do not agree with most of what he had to say. However, I do agree with him that a lot people here 'gave him too much crap' about it and were a little on the harsh side quite often. I never had an issue with it and went so far as to defend him. My reasoning / analogy:
The bring4th community is spending a day at the beach. Everyone is building their own sandcastles, designing them how they see fit but using the Ra sandcastle (lets imagine its a pyramid for fun) as a guide or inspiration. I.E,they are interpreting the material how they want. Adonai decided to join our beach party. He starts creating these elaborate sandcastles that are interesting looking, but don't really resemble the majority of the sandcastles that the other bring4thers are making (or, in my personal opinion, the Ra sandcastle). He will even get into lengthy discussions on his sandcastle's design with the other sandcastle makers. I think that is TOTALLY FINE since he is just making his own sandcastles and not bothering anyone else's.
Now comes this thread. So far, your argument seems to be "well, the design of my sandcastle is far superior to yours. Your understanding of sandcastle design does not make sense. I actually don't even believe in building sandcastles, but I am doing this anyways to show you how it's done." I find that standpoint to be annoying (and pretty humorous
), but again, it has not yet directly interfered with my sandcastle.
What DOES severely annoy me is what you did with that reasoning: "I am going to come over there and destroy your sandcastle because I don't think it is 'correct'. I am going to show up like a thief in the night and kick over your sandcastle without even telling anyone. Not only that, I won't bother to build my own (supposedly) superior sandcastle first (or ever) to replace the castle several people spent a lot of time and effort creating. The only way we can have a sandcastle is if the Sandcastle Review Board comes over here and approves of your sandcastle, but I certainly have no intention of helping. In fact, I want to let you know in advance that I intend to kick over any sandcastles you might build."
I agree with the majority of what yossarian has had to say about this, although I certainly don't agree with how he has said it. However, I will admit it has elicited a few smirks from me since he has been so over the top about it.
Overall, I also agree that the article could be better. There were a few points I don't agree on the wording of or just don't agree altogether. However, I felt that the article was about 90% of what I would want it to be: an explanation of WHAT the Ra Material is with as little personal interpretation/bias as possible.
Scrapping the whole thing was uncalled for. Especially since there is so much bias by the wiki admins against this type of material which is already annoying in the first place. It may be difficult to pull this one out of the fire again.
Adonai, one of the only semi-rational counter-arguments you could make hasn't been made, so I will take it away from you. If you had this in mind when you did this, I'm pretty sure you would have mentioned it by now:
You could have said this was your intention, to stop it from potentially being widely disseminated, but that clearly wasn't what you had in mind.
TLDR; Please stop kicking over our sandcastle.
Previously on this website, Adonai came up with a lot of theories on the Ra Material, extrapolations, and stuff which I presume he just made up (his own philosophy). I do not agree with most of what he had to say. However, I do agree with him that a lot people here 'gave him too much crap' about it and were a little on the harsh side quite often. I never had an issue with it and went so far as to defend him. My reasoning / analogy:
The bring4th community is spending a day at the beach. Everyone is building their own sandcastles, designing them how they see fit but using the Ra sandcastle (lets imagine its a pyramid for fun) as a guide or inspiration. I.E,they are interpreting the material how they want. Adonai decided to join our beach party. He starts creating these elaborate sandcastles that are interesting looking, but don't really resemble the majority of the sandcastles that the other bring4thers are making (or, in my personal opinion, the Ra sandcastle). He will even get into lengthy discussions on his sandcastle's design with the other sandcastle makers. I think that is TOTALLY FINE since he is just making his own sandcastles and not bothering anyone else's.
Now comes this thread. So far, your argument seems to be "well, the design of my sandcastle is far superior to yours. Your understanding of sandcastle design does not make sense. I actually don't even believe in building sandcastles, but I am doing this anyways to show you how it's done." I find that standpoint to be annoying (and pretty humorous
), but again, it has not yet directly interfered with my sandcastle.What DOES severely annoy me is what you did with that reasoning: "I am going to come over there and destroy your sandcastle because I don't think it is 'correct'. I am going to show up like a thief in the night and kick over your sandcastle without even telling anyone. Not only that, I won't bother to build my own (supposedly) superior sandcastle first (or ever) to replace the castle several people spent a lot of time and effort creating. The only way we can have a sandcastle is if the Sandcastle Review Board comes over here and approves of your sandcastle, but I certainly have no intention of helping. In fact, I want to let you know in advance that I intend to kick over any sandcastles you might build."
I agree with the majority of what yossarian has had to say about this, although I certainly don't agree with how he has said it. However, I will admit it has elicited a few smirks from me since he has been so over the top about it.
Overall, I also agree that the article could be better. There were a few points I don't agree on the wording of or just don't agree altogether. However, I felt that the article was about 90% of what I would want it to be: an explanation of WHAT the Ra Material is with as little personal interpretation/bias as possible.
Scrapping the whole thing was uncalled for. Especially since there is so much bias by the wiki admins against this type of material which is already annoying in the first place. It may be difficult to pull this one out of the fire again.
Adonai, one of the only semi-rational counter-arguments you could make hasn't been made, so I will take it away from you. If you had this in mind when you did this, I'm pretty sure you would have mentioned it by now:
www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=17#2 17.2 Ra Wrote:We, ourselves, do not feel an urgency for this information to be widely disseminated. It is enough that we have made it available to three, four, or five. This is extremely ample reward, for if one of these obtains fourth-density understanding due to this catalyst then we shall have fulfilled the Law of One in the distortion of service.
You could have said this was your intention, to stop it from potentially being widely disseminated, but that clearly wasn't what you had in mind.
TLDR; Please stop kicking over our sandcastle.
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