(06-21-2010, 12:35 PM)Namaste Wrote: Far from it, my brother, I think of wisdom as an innate knowingness, a revelation of truth that has occurred through experience. One cannot learn wisdom through reading. One gains (and acts upon) wisdom through experience.
then again what does experience do ? other than present cases and examples for the mind to work on ? so that the significator can understand the dance ?
if, you present an example as a teacher and name the case outright, wont the same student be able to use his/her mind to work on that example and still understand the dance ?
s/he can.
all that the student needs is sufficient sensitivity that s/he can process the catalyst/example.
Quote:I refer to 'intellect', as the physical mind, the logical/rational aspect of the ego construct we use to navigate and survive in these chemical vehicles. For example, the Masters degree I earned was of the intellectual type, useful only in particular contexts of 3D life. I do not consider it wisdom - a Masters degree does not make one wise. The same goes for the Ra material, I do not consider a scholar of it wise, as it is not from experience. However, speaking to an entity that had made a deep connection with intelligent infinity, and graduated from 3D to 4D, would have much wisdom to share.
that is my point in above posts. you, up until the end of your masters degree, have used your mind, the manifestation of your wisdom tool, for working on societal mind's needs and demands. basically, it was whatever technical branch of science the education was about. and, you have gained wisdom on that field.
had you spent all those years to exclusively concentrate on life, its beats and mechanics, its dance, you would have gained the particular wisdom type you speak of. you are doing it, since whenever you started doing it.
the difference in our opinions and approaches is, you separate what you have used to complete your masters from wisdom, referring to the later parts as wisdom. i do not do that. both were usage and learning of wisdom. but, in the master's case, the usage and employ of wisdom was limited to a certain subject.
Quote:I do not wish to get into a intellectual battle over who's perspective is right or wrong. We have both offered our opinions, perhaps now we can get back on topic and let others use our exchanged views as catalysts.
L&L
i disagree utterly. the reasons i disagree are below :
muses, inspiration dont come on demand. when they come, they need to be respected and their rewards used. a discussion may go off branch in many points, but the branches may manifest exceptionally important information and insight, uncalled for and unexpected. limiting may also hamper the flow of the energies that bring these gems.
secondly, we are actually not even off topic. the particular branch we are in now is important in regard to discernment of the truth in the muddy forest of veiled 3d experience through usage of wisdom. leaving aside the particular narrow subject of 3d to 4d sudden or gradual transition and the discernment of what text/channeling is most truthful, this actually is important in every aspect of our existence on this planet. actually on any kind of existence plane, now that i mention it.
the mods are already separating such branches that deserve their own threads from what i understand by the way. which is a very wise and productive practice.