(06-26-2010, 06:00 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I don't want to speak for unity100, but my interpretation of his questions is that they are just examples of questions to which we can provide answers, that came from mind. Thus, illustrating how integral mind is to our existence.
moreover, since all the feelings, thoughts, ideas are contained and experienced by mind, without mind, there cant be love. for it is a manifestation of a particular energy in the white spectrum.
Quote:As a tangent (since this was used only as an example to illustrate a greater point), I disagree that there is no right and wrong. From the Creator's perspective, yes, that is true. But from our perspective, I think 'right and wrong' are relative. To someone aspiring to polarize STO, it might be considered 'wrong' or, at the very least, a mistake, to intentionally harm someone. Ultimately, all is catalyst.
precisely !
(06-26-2010, 03:24 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: how do you know that you exist ? I AM a thought; I AM the Creator; not an entity among entities, in this illusion.
i missed that. its because i didnt read answers to those questions, all those questions were meant as rhetorical questions ALL of them requiring the existence of the mind to even be questions - because to exist as multiple entities in order to effect even the existence of the concepts asked in those questions (leave aside the question's answers or mechanisms) existence of mind is required. leave aside knowing the answers, the concepts that are contained about in those questions wont even exist without mind. the physical creation is a product of mind. that also goes as far to say that any kind of multiple existences (existence of multiple entities, any kind of, includes time/space counterparts of photons to any spiritual entity) that can be found in time/space. mind, is apparently what gives a structure to existence, therefore a possibility to manifest. (that seems to be more a business of the book 4 discussion tho). without manifestation, there is only infinite intelligence, flowing around. not love, not self, not others, no service to others, no service to self, (a non polarity by the way), nothing.
and to that 'i am the creator' bit, i would respond, you are not the creator. if you have been the creator, you wouldnt be talking with us, for you would already have started your journey towards infinite, you would have left behind any kind of identity, and you would be in 8th d of this octave, and therefore first in the next octave. you wouldnt have any business here. you wouldnt have any fascination with love, the green ray of white spectrum, you wouldnt be any qualms with mind either.
then, you are in an illusion, and the illusion is real. until you overgrow the illusion, the illusion is going to be real for you, inversely proportional to your advancedness.
and a sidenote, there is no 'single' entity - there is a union of infinite numbers of entities. and, because infinite numbers of entities would require an infinite time to totally harmonize to what can be called a totally uniform single entity (ie infinity), that entity will never be totally harmonized, and singular. it will always exist in a state of multi facetedness.
therefore, 'all is one' concept is a bit misleading. 'all is united, all is in unison' would be more appropriate. for, the ensuing union is a union of infinite numbers of infinite entities. that is also the reason why the existence is infinite, and innumerable aspects of that 'self' is discovered in every octave, and 'the creator knows itself more'.
to an entity looking to that union from outside (as if it was possible, but imagine it is), the harmonization may look at so a high level that it the union could resemble a singular entity. yet, because it is comprised of infinite entities that have also infinite potential in themselves (notice how each entity creates unique refractions of intelligent energy, aka creator, when they are manifesting as entities), there are also infinite facets, aspects, entities in that union.
in the end, all will be infinitely equal parts of an infinite union of entities.
there is no 'creator' or 'i', but, there is only us.
'we' are.
edit : updated with a few bits