Law of One Advanced Teachings and The Mind

[Peregrinus]

how do you know killing someone is wrong. (or is it right sometimes ?) There is no right or wrong, only the perception of such.

Respectfully, this is a thought that you had about a concept. As are all the others. We know we are part of the Creator, we know we are Wanderers...or do we? Do we know, or do we think we know? Do we experience these things, or do we believe something about these things?

I understand that there might be a shadow of a doubt for many that wish to make that great leap of faith, but for me there is none. I do not suggest or believe; I know, absolutely and infinitely. I was at the original thought (as all of I were - though this remembrance is veiled for most). I have travelled above this octave. I know what I AM, though in this illusion I enjoy the process of experience and being able to serve. I am thankful for it in each moment. Granted, there has been a process to come to the point at which I am now at, but I am nonetheless here now. Do I still have ape mind thoughts, feelings, and emotions? Definitely, but I use them as the catalyst they are, working with them in my balancing process.

As a tangent (since this was used only as an example to illustrate a greater point), I disagree that there is no right and wrong. From the Creator's perspective, yes, that is true. But from our perspective, I think 'right and wrong' are relative. To someone aspiring to polarize STO, it might be considered 'wrong' or, at the very least, a mistake, to intentionally harm someone. Ultimately, all is catalyst.

From the human sto perspective, you are absolutely correct. I was speaking from the I AM perspective where judgment has become less of a process for me. All is perfect.

I do understand your point, but, imo, the idea of 'there is no right or wrong' seems to imply that 'anything goes.' Yet, even Q'uo acknowledges discernment and boundaries. Q'uo has stated (paraphrased), "The STS path is a bloody path. We are not of that path. We are of the radiant path." which indicates to me that it's ok to make a judgment about what we choose or decline...For me personally, I would consider it 'wrong' to do xyz because that wouldn't be in alignment with my chosen path. Does that mean I won't ever do xyz? Not necessarily. But if I feel a twinge of conscience afterwards, to me that is a clue that it was, for me, a mistake and something to be learned from, forgiven, and healed.

Yes, one's chosen path will determine what the perspective of right and wrong is, but what may appear to be correct to the one path will most likely appear wrong to the other.

To this I was speaking from the higher perspective. The infinite possibilities of both positive and negative are that which are to be explored, which is why the polarities exist. In order for a full exploration, there may be no limitation. Anything does go, and you may ask those of Mars, Maldek, and of Atlantis if that is untrue (when you exit the illusion or source the answer). This is by no means necessary; it is by choice which we are here.

how do you know that you exist ? I AM a thought; I AM the Creator; not an entity among entities, in this illusion.

We know this intellectually, and maybe even experientially during our meditations, and maybe even identify with the Creator in our daily lives to some degree, but who among us is without distortion? If there were no identity of entity among entities, how is it that we are discussing, disagreeing, and have have individual names?

All is perception. Our names here in this illusion are not the names we go by as an individual spirit, those names which we use for many millions of years, and yet even those names are part of the distortion of perception of individuality designed to come to an understanding of the self, the Creator.

isnt everything accepted by everything already ? In truth yes, but in perception, no.

Exactly. So if ALL is ONE, then even the perception of separation is part of the One, right?

Correct dear sister. All that exists is of the Creator. To be more exact; all that exists is the thought of the Creator.

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how do you know that you exist ? I AM a thought; I AM the Creator; not an entity among entities, in this illusion.

i missed that. its because i didnt read answers to those questions, all those questions were meant as rhetorical questions ALL of them requiring the existence of the mind to even be questions - because to exist as multiple entities in order to effect even the existence of the concepts asked in those questions (leave aside the question's answers or mechanisms) existence of mind is required. leave aside knowing the answers, the concepts that are contained about in those questions wont even exist without mind. the physical creation is a product of mind. that also goes as far to say that any kind of multiple existences (existence of multiple entities, any kind of, includes time/space counterparts of photons to any spiritual entity) that can be found in time/space. mind, is apparently what gives a structure to existence, therefore a possibility to manifest. (that seems to be more a business of the book 4 discussion tho). without manifestation, there is only infinite intelligence, flowing around. not love, not self, not others, no service to others, no service to self, (a non polarity by the way), nothing.

So then, since you believe the mind is a required part of existence, how is it that one moves from the physical body into the energy body without a loss of consciousness. The energy body has no mind for it is of the spirit. I have seen the One Creator by itself, unaware, when it became aware and had the one thought; all of creation was then born. The Creator had no "mind" as you such suggest. Thought is a process unto the self, and this physical body and mind which you think you are, is a part of a thought, an illusion.

Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought.

I have not only grasped this concept, but have come to accept and know it as truth.

and to that 'i am the creator' bit, i would respond, you are not the creator. if you have been the creator, you wouldnt be talking with us, for you would already have started your journey towards infinite, you would have left behind any kind of identity, and you would be in 8th d of this octave, and therefore first in the next octave. you wouldnt have any business here. you wouldnt have any fascination with love, the green ray of white spectrum, you wouldnt be any qualms with mind either.

then, you are in an illusion, and the illusion is real. until you overgrow the illusion, the illusion is going to be real for you, inversely proportional to your advancedness.

...unless my intention is to serve, in which case setting limits for myself both consciously and unconsciously would keep me from advancing beyond a certain point. I am thankful for this opportunity to serve... and leaving earlier than by my own design is not possible.

and a sidenote, there is no 'single' entity - there is a union of infinite numbers of entities. and, because infinite numbers of entities would require an infinite time to totally harmonize to what can be called a totally uniform single entity (ie infinity), that entity will never be totally harmonized, and singular. it will always exist in a state of multi facetedness.

therefore, 'all is one' concept is a bit misleading. 'all is united, all is in unison' would be more appropriate. for, the ensuing union is a union of infinite numbers of infinite entities. that is also the reason why the existence is infinite, and innumerable aspects of that 'self' is discovered in every octave, and 'the creator knows itself more'.

to an entity looking to that union from outside (as if it was possible, but imagine it is), the harmonization may look at so a high level that it the union could resemble a singular entity. yet, because it is comprised of infinite entities that have also infinite potential in themselves (notice how each entity creates unique refractions of intelligent energy, aka creator, when they are manifesting as entities), there are also infinite facets, aspects, entities in that union.

in the end, all will be infinitely equal parts of an infinite union of entities.

there is no 'creator' or 'i', but, there is only us.

'we' are.

Ah, the beauty of the illusion and the veil. There is only One. Enjoy the scenery brother

Ra: Firstly, you must understand that the distinction between yourself and others is not visible to us. We do not consider that a separation exists between the consciousness-raising efforts of the distortion which you project as a personality and the distortion which you project as an other personality.

Ra: In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.