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    Namaste (Offline)

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    07-05-2010, 06:40 AM
    Thanks for the quotes, unity. I will re-quote to make this post easier to read:

    Quote:The service-to-self adept will satisfy itself with the shadows and, grasping the light of day, will toss back the head in grim laughter, preferring the darkness.

    Rs is talking in metaphors, and does not consistently define STS using words such as "darkness" and "grim laughter". An isolated statement used out of context.

    Quote:The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives otherselves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

    This is describing the personal perpective/experience (or trappings) of how one chooses STS, and not defining STS itself.

    Quote:The negatively oriented being will be one who feels that it has found power that gives meaning to its existence precisely as the positive polarization does feel.

    Again, this is a description of the personal perpective/experience.

    Quote:It is aware of the full array of possible methods of viewing the universe of the One Creator and it is convinced that the ignoring and non-use of the green-ray energy center will be the method most efficient in providing harvestability of fourth density.

    None of the above quotes specifically define the choice of STS or STO. In the context of our conversation, they have been used to support your understanding that choices do not stem from love or fear. I could equally use these quotes to support my understanding that all choices do stem from fear or love. They are open to interpretation.

    The quotes in my previous post on the other hand, are in context of describing STS and STO choices, and are both clear and specific. Let's have another look (this time will full excerpts)...

    Quote:I spoke last night of intention, of moving away from the limiting concept of service to self and service to others—which is quite disorienting because service to others is service to self and vice versa—and to begin to see with clarity the ways that service to others springs from a ground of love and service to self springs from a ground of fear.[1]

    When you begin to see the intention to offer love or to react to fear, to allow fear to direct your choices, then you can move away from the concept of service to self or other-self and towards the pure experience of “being service” or the pure experience of reactivity to fear.

    The most important point to remember here is that expressing service through being service in love is natural to you. And when you do that, you are not doing anything; you are not creating anything. You are simply expressing your own true nature. When that nature is in full harmony with the external positive energy which may move through you, your energy to serve is magnified. At that point, you do not need to ask, “How can I best serve?” You simply choose the paths that lie right at your feet, whatever they are.

    A clear definition of how all choices are based upon love or fear.

    Quote:This is the crux of it: choice, responsibility. The being who acts in reactivity to fear, and thus acts in what we have called service to self and with the intention of harm of others, has either denied his responsibility and his ability to make a choice or is frightened of that responsibility and choice.

    Again, a clear definition.

    unity Wrote:springing from something does not make the result what it has sprung from. 4th ray springs from 3rd, yet this doesnt make green yellow.

    Comparing the rays as an entirely different concept. The core element to understand is that we can choose how the energy flows (or not) concurrently through each ray, negative or positive - fear or love.

    Choices made from a point of love will indeed effect the result, as will choices made from fear.

    A negative judgment is based upon fear
    Being selfish is based upon fear
    Being impatient is based upon fear
    Being agressive is based upon fear
    Being cowardly is based upon fear
    Controlling another is based upon fear

    Appreciating another's traits is based upon love
    Being generous is based upon love
    Being patient is based upon love
    Being peaceful is based upon love
    Being courageous is based upon love
    Empowering others is based upon love

    Regardless of the associated ray of consciousness (albeit survival, the self, other selves, groups, expression, creativity etc.), these are all valid choices.

    Notice how each example above is an exact mirror of the other; fear or love - STS or STO. The result is defined by the essence of the choice, regardless of which ray the thought is predominantly based. Hence, the root of the choice will effect the outcome.

    It's quite simple.

    That is the choice we make, day by day, minute by minute, thought by thought. Fear or love, the choice of this density.

    L&L

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    Service without request? - by blargg - 07-02-2010, 12:52 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-02-2010, 05:38 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-02-2010, 06:30 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Ali Quadir - 07-02-2010, 06:56 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-02-2010, 09:48 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Richard - 07-02-2010, 10:25 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-02-2010, 11:09 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by blargg - 07-02-2010, 11:41 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-02-2010, 12:12 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-02-2010, 01:17 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Monica - 07-04-2010, 12:53 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 06:18 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-04-2010, 10:10 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 11:38 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-04-2010, 01:17 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-04-2010, 05:29 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 07:06 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-04-2010, 08:14 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 08:53 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Monica - 07-04-2010, 10:57 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 01:46 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-04-2010, 02:14 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 02:27 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-04-2010, 02:59 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 03:23 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-04-2010, 03:30 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Ali Quadir - 07-04-2010, 02:40 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-04-2010, 02:53 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Ali Quadir - 07-05-2010, 03:35 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-04-2010, 11:59 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 06:16 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-05-2010, 06:40 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 07:09 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-05-2010, 08:28 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 08:52 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-05-2010, 09:23 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-05-2010, 10:43 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 01:30 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Poffo - 07-05-2010, 01:36 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-05-2010, 02:04 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-05-2010, 02:05 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 02:50 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-05-2010, 03:15 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 03:26 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-05-2010, 03:39 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 04:05 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Monica - 07-05-2010, 04:17 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 04:25 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Monica - 07-05-2010, 04:39 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 05:05 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Poffo - 07-05-2010, 04:49 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-05-2010, 05:20 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-06-2010, 06:05 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 05:23 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-05-2010, 05:39 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 05:47 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-05-2010, 06:17 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by unity100 - 07-05-2010, 06:36 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by solitary - 07-05-2010, 06:54 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-05-2010, 07:11 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Ali Quadir - 07-06-2010, 04:15 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-06-2010, 10:21 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Lavazza - 07-07-2010, 06:16 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Monica - 07-07-2010, 06:39 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-07-2010, 06:44 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Lavazza - 07-10-2010, 02:18 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Namaste - 07-10-2010, 06:02 AM
    RE: Service without request? - by Lavazza - 07-18-2010, 10:46 PM
    RE: Service without request? - by Monica - 07-10-2010, 04:13 PM

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