Hello manniz, thank you for a thought-provoking post. There are many points in your post that are worth some further contemplation, and I am just picking one of them in this post --
The role of feedback is integral in the way that we participate in the evolution of the universe, I guess, as per my personal and subjective understanding of the LOO.
Ra mentioned something about the 'Great Record of Creation', in which they have recorded their observations regarding their prior direct interventions with the population of earth and which they characterize as one based on "naïve beliefs". In fact, Ra goes on to say that they have recorded their now deep realization that such interventions that are naive would not be necessary again, meaning that, potentially, other such Confederation interventions on other planets can learn from the experiences of Ra thousands of years ago on our planet.
Thus, it appears that the universe does have a mechanism of a feedback loop through which it continuously refines itself in the march towards greater and greater perfection.
The role of feedback appears a central part of the narratives in two other episodes within the LOO, as well, in terms of one part of creation learning from another. One is the instance with respect to Dan Frye and the other being that of Charlie Hickson.
Thus, it appears that to learn includes, also, observing feedback on 'personalized' experiences that each part of creation provides to each, apart from direct personal ones. And ultimately, it appears that the feedback-loop based learning or knowing is a key thematic tool that the One Infinite Creator uses to know more about itself. In fact, in the LOO, the concept of 'free will', itself, is defined as one that allows the Creator to know itself.
In the above quote, it is interesting that Don illustrates free will as "total freedom of choice in the ways of knowing"; rather that "...ways of acting". Thus, free will appears to have a close connection with how we know or interpret an event, situation or experience; rather than our ability to totally manifest actions without any impedance.
In a further post, I wish to take up another key theme from your posting, which is the following --
Thank you, manniz.
In the scheme of the LOO, we are all equal partners and stakeholders in sharing our unique perspectives on the creation of the One Infinite Creator, I guess!
(08-24-2014, 01:17 PM)manniz Wrote: True love needs understanding.
By providing honest feedbalc from the ground here in this heavily veiled third density, we are providing understanding to the whole of creation.
It may all be an illusion here, but creation takes it very seriously.
The role of feedback is integral in the way that we participate in the evolution of the universe, I guess, as per my personal and subjective understanding of the LOO.
Quote:60.16 ↥ Questioner: The pyramid shape then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex at that time to be of paramount importance as, shall I say, a physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.
Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.
We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.
We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.
At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation along with other rounded and arched or pointed circular shapes is of help to you. However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.
Ra mentioned something about the 'Great Record of Creation', in which they have recorded their observations regarding their prior direct interventions with the population of earth and which they characterize as one based on "naïve beliefs". In fact, Ra goes on to say that they have recorded their now deep realization that such interventions that are naive would not be necessary again, meaning that, potentially, other such Confederation interventions on other planets can learn from the experiences of Ra thousands of years ago on our planet.
Thus, it appears that the universe does have a mechanism of a feedback loop through which it continuously refines itself in the march towards greater and greater perfection.
The role of feedback appears a central part of the narratives in two other episodes within the LOO, as well, in terms of one part of creation learning from another. One is the instance with respect to Dan Frye and the other being that of Charlie Hickson.
Quote:8.30 Questioner: Is this the type of craft that Dan Frye was transported in?
Ra: I am Ra. The one known as Daniel was, in thought-form, transported by Confederation thought-form vehicular illusion in order to give this mind/body/spirit complex data so that we might see how this type of contact aided your people in the uncovering of the intelligent infinity behind the illusion of limits.
8.31 Questioner: Would it be possible for any of us to have some type of contact with the Confederation in a more direct way?
Ra: I am Ra. In observing the distortions of those who underwent this experiential sequence we decided to gradually back off, shall I say, from direct contact in thought-form. The least distortion seems to be available in mind-to-mind communication. Therefore, the request to be taken aboard is not one we care to comply with. You are most valuable in your present orientation.
Quote:8.16 Questioner: What did they do to Charlie Hickson when they took him on board?
Ra: I am Ra. They used his mind/body/spirit complex’s life experience, concentrating upon the experience of the complexes of what you call war.
8.17 Questioner: How did they use them?
Ra: I am Ra. The use of experience is to learn. Consider a race who watches a movie. It experiences a story and identifies with the feelings, perceptions, and experiences of the hero.
Thus, it appears that to learn includes, also, observing feedback on 'personalized' experiences that each part of creation provides to each, apart from direct personal ones. And ultimately, it appears that the feedback-loop based learning or knowing is a key thematic tool that the One Infinite Creator uses to know more about itself. In fact, in the LOO, the concept of 'free will', itself, is defined as one that allows the Creator to know itself.
Quote:27.8 ↥ Questioner: Now, I understand that the first distortion of intelligent infinity is the distortion of what we call free will. Can you give me a definition of this distortion?
Ra: I am Ra. In this distortion of the Law of One it is recognized that the Creator will know Itself.
27.9 ↥ Questioner: Then am I correct then in assuming that the Creator will know Itself the Creator, then grants for this knowing the concept of freedom— total freedom of choice in the ways of knowing? Am I correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.
In the above quote, it is interesting that Don illustrates free will as "total freedom of choice in the ways of knowing"; rather that "...ways of acting". Thus, free will appears to have a close connection with how we know or interpret an event, situation or experience; rather than our ability to totally manifest actions without any impedance.
In a further post, I wish to take up another key theme from your posting, which is the following --
(08-24-2014, 01:17 PM)manniz Wrote: And solutions. Obviously, creation wants to exist, and for that it has to keep darkness in limits. Give free will to darkness, but also protect the free will of its victims.
Thank you, manniz.
(08-25-2014, 01:38 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: I am simply trying to find my own way through the mazed darkness, and share accordingly.
