Depression?

[Jade]

I find isis' perspective thoroughly thoughtful and interesting. What are we doing if we aren't following the things that thrill us or give us joy? Many people fantasize about many terrible things that they never act upon. I do understand Phoenix's point that giving attention to something is feeding it, but we all feed dangerous beasts on occasion. I think if something makes us excited to think about it - so be it! If we suppress all thoughts that make us happy it brings us to a place where we are nearly dead. Of course acting on thoughts that harm others or ourselves is not service-to-others, but we all can make our own choices.

As I was reading a thought popped into my head that may bear some congruency. When my husband was a teenager, he was a thrill seeker - lots of booze, drugs, stealing, fighting. Gang-behavior. He said each time he would push his body by taking more and more and more, to see how far it would go. He calmed down after his teen years (he said the safety net of his parents is what allowed him to push so far) but he still had a serious drinking problem until we met, when he was 28 and a few nights a week drinking up to two cases (nearly 50) beers in a night.

There are many kinds of ways people seek thrills in 3D. Toying with death is a large part of the experience. I think a lot of it is tied to the rush of adrenaline one gets in situations like that - for me, adrenaline has always made me queasy. But for many it is very addictive. It's that feeling of excitement. We have these heavy chemical bodies that are ours to play with and do as we please. It is all our Choice.

Gem, I know you said you expressed some reservations about working out because of a minor stroke. I must present this conundrum to you with all the love I can: If you say, try working out or doing something more physically exerting than usual and you enjoy it enough to continue doing it, and you were to say, die of natural causes while doing it, is this what you fear? Is it logical to in one breathe fear dying but in another express a desire to kill yourself? I hope this paradox is fruitful to ponder.

I want to thank everyone for their honesty in participating in this thread. I also want to make sure it's very clear that I do not desire to see anyone here kill themselves, however I also do thoroughly understand that one's path is theirs truly and there are no mistakes. Those who are aware of their Higher Self do not cease their 3D experience before an extremely well-considered time.