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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Archetypes of Mind, Body, & Spirit Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator

    Thread: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator


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    09-13-2014, 10:58 AM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2014, 11:47 AM by ricdaw.)
    (09-13-2014, 09:01 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote:
    ricdaw Wrote:I beg to disagree. The Significator of Mind is your personal identity. The you of you.

    We speak like this all the time, but it is really shorthand for "the part of you that the Significator of the Mind describes is..."

    The point I'm trying to make here is not that your description of the Significator of the Mind is inaccurate, but that your language is somewhat sloppy. To say the Matrix of the Mind, for example, IS the conscious mind confuses the representation with the thing itself.

    You made me smile. This reminds me of college debates with friends.

    In this forum I am talking about the cards because, at that level of representational thought, I can bring some clarity to the discourse of the larger concepts that way.

    I'm still a student and need my tools.

    (09-13-2014, 09:01 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: When architects are looking at their blueprints and describing to engineers what they have in mind, they do not refer to the blueprint as the building. They talk about how the building will be but is not yet.

    In my experience, it doesn't work that way. The blueprint stage is when all conversation stops about the building that "will be." In everyday life, putting something in words or on paper is the equivalent to making the concepts concrete.

    Can you imagine how slow the conversation would be otherwise? Instead of, this:

    Architect pointing at the blueprints, speaking to Engineer, "I want you to expand this joint two inches and move this wall out."

    You'd get this instead:

    Architect pointing at the blueprints, speaking to Engineer, "See my finger? I'm using it as a pointing device, not because I have any desire for you to look at the finger. But follow where the finger is pointing. See that two dimensional drawing/representation of the wall there? The one line of it is a two dimensional representation of the joint. Now you can't see this of course, because I can't easily manipulate the image, but imagine the line here moving two inches so that this representational wall, when actualized in three dimensions with your work crew, is moved out as well."

    What you call "sloppy" I believe is clear and better suited to the teach/learning.

    I think the other way is dense and obfuscating, though more accurate.

    (09-13-2014, 09:01 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: In our case, we are still using the blueprint as a reference even though the building is already built, so it is far easier to confuse the two for each other.

    The cards are part of the Ra Material text. I think it's okay to ground the inchoate concepts of Ra's teaching back into the imagery. That's why I spend so much time describing the images themselves. I found Ra's syntax dense and off-putting. I'm trying a different way.

    I am, by professional training and experience, a lawyer. Some legal concepts are so foreign to Anglo-American thinking, and so abstract, that they are described in latin. For the first several years of legal education, the student is introduced to these concepts via case law, or by story telling, if you will. The concepts are discovered and learned by parsing the texts of judges and by seeing them applied in real world situations. This method of study works really well. And I endeavor to apply it here.

    Graduate students of law can make jokes using res judicata in a sentence, or res ipsa, because the concepts are, by then, fully grounded. They are over the mistaken notion that the concepts are what the judges have said about them, but are instead eternal concepts that exist outside of language on on their own.

    But many who come to these forums to graze are not there yet.

    It is a big step just to be able to translate a picture of a guy pointing at a cube as "will" or "consciousness," let alone putting that understanding into the context of the Archetypes of the Deeper Mind, which is really but a portion of a Trinity of the Self, which is a portion of (who knows how many layers) before Unity.

    I am trying to provide a grounded understanding of the cards, in the hope that the readers may graduate to the greater understandings. Please forgive my sloppiness, I do it with purpose.
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    Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Rama - 06-07-2010, 08:52 PM
    RE: aegis matrix - significator -potentiator - by Cyclops - 06-08-2010, 05:55 PM
    RE: aegis matrix - significator -potentiator - by Eddie - 06-08-2010, 06:50 PM
    RE: aegis matrix - significator -potentiator - by Rama - 06-10-2010, 02:57 PM
    RE: aegis matrix - significator -potentiator - by thefool - 06-12-2010, 10:22 AM
    RE: aegis matrix - significator -potentiator - by unity100 - 06-12-2010, 10:48 AM
    RE: aegis matrix - significator -potentiator - by thefool - 06-13-2010, 08:44 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by ricdaw - 08-27-2014, 07:44 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 08-27-2014, 08:47 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by ricdaw - 08-27-2014, 10:38 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 08-28-2014, 02:25 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by xise - 08-28-2014, 08:15 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Jade - 09-11-2014, 01:14 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 09-11-2014, 04:09 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by JustLikeYou - 09-11-2014, 06:33 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by ricdaw - 09-11-2014, 10:08 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by βαθμιαίος - 09-12-2014, 07:04 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by ricdaw - 09-12-2014, 01:55 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 09-11-2014, 06:49 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by AnthroHeart - 09-11-2014, 07:27 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 09-12-2014, 07:13 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by βαθμιαίος - 09-13-2014, 06:22 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 09-13-2014, 07:26 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by JustLikeYou - 09-13-2014, 09:01 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by ricdaw - 09-13-2014, 10:58 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by ricdaw - 09-13-2014, 12:06 PM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Plenum - 09-14-2014, 11:37 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by Adonai One - 09-13-2014, 09:23 AM
    RE: Seeking defintions: Matrix, Potentiator, & Significator - by JustLikeYou - 09-13-2014, 04:53 PM

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