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    Thread: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology


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    09-20-2014, 10:33 PM
    Astrology is rather a subjective form of trying to learn information that is impossible for most of humanity to obtain in the moment due to distortions perpetuated and forced upon a people by their hyper dimensional controllers. It's literally easy to lead a human astray, changing historical events to create a figurehead for the people to pray to that never existed and was based upon another man that, to place information and not see the corresponding events that maybe a virus occurred after a meteorite impact or explosion in the air are related.

    Gurdjieff Says:

    Quote:"Do you know the Armenian fairy tale of the wolf and the sheep?

    Once there lived a wolf who slaughtered a great many sheep and reduced many people to tears.

    At length I do not know why, he suddenly felt qualms of conscience and began to repent his life; so he decided to reform and to slaughter no more sheep.

    In order to this seriously he went to a priest and asked him to hold a thanksgiving service.

    The priest began the service and the wolf stood weeping and praying to the church. The service was long. The wolf had slaughtered many of the priest's sheep, therefore the priest prayed earnestly that the wolf would indeed reform. Suddenly the wolf looked through a window and saw that sheep were being driven home. He began to fidget but the priest went on and on without end.

    At last the wolf could contain himself no longer and he shouted -- "Finish it priest! Or all the sheep will be driven home and I shall be left without supper!"

    This is a very good fairy tale because it describes man very well. He is ready to sacrifice everything, but after all today's dinner is a different matter.

    A man always wishes to begin with something big. But this is impossible; there can be no choice, we must begin with the things of today."

    What exactly is Gurdjieff talking about? It has something to do with thee essence of the state of humanity. As above so below, as with human to animal is negative alien beings to humans, and in what way are we food to them. Gurdjieff speaks of "We are food for the moon." So how does this correlate with astrology, let us continue on the same page as G speaks about astrology:

    Quote:One of us asked him what his views on astrology were, whether there was anything of value in the more or less known theories of astrology.

    "Yes," said G, "it depends upon how they are understood. They can be a value and they can be without value. Astrology deals with one part of man, with his type, his essence--it does not deal with personality, with acquired qualities. If you understand this you understand what is of value in astrology."

    G does something to prove his point:

    Quote:As we left the park G stopped talking and was going a few steps ahead of us. We five walked behind him talking together. In going round a tree G dropped the stick--ebony with a Caucasian silver handle--he was carrying and one of us bent down, picked it up, and gave it to him. G walked on for a few steps, then turned to us and said: "That was astrology. Do you understand? You all saw me drop the stick. Why did you pick it up? Let each of you speak for himself?"

    So the five man spoke to each other to figure out the riddle that G gave them and then G spoke briefly again on the subject of astrology:

    Quote:"This is astrology," he said. "In the same situation one man sees and does one thing, another -- another thing, a third -- a third thing, and so on. And each one acted according to his type. Observe people and yourselves in this way and then perhaps we will afterwards talk of a different form of astrology."

    Source: In Search of the Miraculous, By: PD Ouspensky, pgs 366-367

    Another form of looking at astrology is to consider the Law of Seven as it relates to the Exoteric Cycle of where most of humanity resides which is in the state of non existence and of not being being in a state of true consciousness, there's a lot more information that goes beyond astrology but I believe this sums up little more on the subject related to this topic:

    First of all draw a circle and:

    Quote:The Atom of the Absolute is indivisible and has no small I's, the entity is fully aware, and has full control, therefore is man 7. The musical shock of Do.

    The Atom of all Worlds is divisible by three I's, it is objective but cannot retain information therefore is man 6 and has the musical shock of Re.

    The Atom of the Milky Way is divisible by 6 small I's and is a student of learning to be objective, is man number 5 corresponding to the musical shock of Mi

    Now we can relate to astrology:

    Quote:The Atom of the Sun is divisible by 12 small I's of the personality, it is the beginning of learning to become a free entity consciously, man number 4 is still subjective and is the musical note fa.

    The Atom of the Planetary World divisible by 24 small I's of the personality, it is Mercury, and Jupiter. Interestingly note that man number 3 is subjective yet learns objective information is a man of knowledge a yogi, yet the yogi struggles to truly understand the information that has been obtained. Musical shock is sol.

    The Atom of Earth has 48 small I's, if correct from memory it is associated with the Ascendent. It is man number 2 on the path of the monk. It is devout, religious, but is subjective and often stuck in their belief's. Musical shock is la.

    The atom of the Moon has 96 small I's, it is considered to be the most important placement in vedic astrology, whereas the sun is in the west. The moon is how you think, it is how we think that is how we think, it is how we perceive, and how we are controlled. It is the path of the fakir, man number 1 serves to turn on our 12 strains of DNA when it is understood, it helps us to suffer. Yet though a way of control it is also a way to gain freedom when it is understood, it is the si note of shock that we must experience as a race to wake up in this illusion, for we are in a farm. Our emotions wave from one thought to the next, it creates emotion and chaos, for emotion is an illusion and it fools us into believing that love is primal when love is something that we do not understand because we do not have it. Though we subjectively pursue love that we do not understand. Man number one is the most subjective man, yet the lowest of the three serves serves us as a means of escape.

    Source: Gnosis Book 1: The Exoteric Cycle, By: Boris Mouravieff
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    1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by Plenum - 08-10-2014, 10:47 AM
    RE: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by Billy - 08-11-2014, 07:38 AM
    RE: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by sarakhan - 09-20-2014, 05:54 AM
    RE: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by Diana - 09-20-2014, 01:03 PM
    RE: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by zvonimir - 09-20-2014, 01:36 PM
    RE: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by Diana - 09-20-2014, 01:42 PM
    RE: 1979.08.02 Hatonn on Astrology - by Jamie35 - 09-20-2014, 10:33 PM

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