(09-28-2014, 05:07 PM)Parsons Wrote:Quote:Your intent? So do you think intent is important? Is it important that I understand your intent and not misrepresent you?
Um, sure... But that sounds like a loaded question.
Ok, so you agree that intent is important. Why, then, are you ignoring my stated intent, in favor of twisting it? Why do you accuse us of trying to control you, after we have repeatedly stated that that is not our intent?
(09-26-2014, 09:29 PM)Monica Wrote:(09-26-2014, 09:05 PM)Unbound Wrote: STS is about control. You're trying to save the animals, but attempting to control humans as you do so. Sounds kind of STS to me. (Yes, that is sarcastic. Figure I should specify since everyone seems to take that s*** seriously.)
Nope. Not trying to control anyone at all. Not my motivation. It may look the same to you, but it's not the same at all. My motivation is only to help the animals.
I couldn't control what others do anyway, even if I wanted to.
(09-28-2014, 02:26 PM)Parsons Wrote: You can try to guilt trip me with your 'you are supporting cruelty' and call my eating meat 'STS' all you want. I have considered your argument and all the same pieces of information that you have and come to a different conclusion, so further attempts to say my eating meat is STS/cruel are an attempt to convert/control me.
PS: I must have some catalyst on my plate to love and accept people trying to convert(control) me to their way thinking
I will spell it out:
I am NOT trying to guilt-trip you. If you are feeling guilt, that has nothing to do with me, Diana, or any of the other vegetarians.
I never called 'your' meat-eating STS. I said meat-eating was inherently STS. It is you who has made it personal, about you. I was never talking about you.
We aren't trying to convert or control you. We are trying to help the animals, whose calls we hear.
Do you see the difference?