(09-29-2014, 07:54 PM)Folk-love Wrote: I'm a little confused. How is someone who is volunteering at a soup kitchen for the sake of polarising STO excluding or hurting others? Who is losing when you donate to charity? Ahh shucks.
They're not; thus, it isn't STS. It would only be STS if they were hurting others.
But, if they are volunteering at the soup kitchen only to impress others about how 'good' they are, then it isn't STO either.
Here's a better example:
Let's say Pastor Don really cares about helping people so he accepts only a very modest salary from his church, and donates the rest to charity. He feels very good when he helps others, but that's just a bonus, because what motivates him is compassion. His donations have the effect of helping him polarize STO.
But another pastor, let's call him John, doesn't have any compassion for the poor. He just cares about his own image. So when he donates to charity, it doesn't polarize him STO at all because there wasn't any compassion involved.
A 3rd pastor, Bill, also collects from his church, but lies to them and tells them it is going to charity, when in fact he is putting it into his own pocket. So he is being deceptive and even stealing what should have gone to charity. He is serving self while hurting others. His actions polarize him in the direction of STS.
On the surface, all 3 pastors seem to be doing the same thing, but the effect on their polarity is different.
(09-29-2014, 08:13 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: so it's just the drive to greater efficiency (ie lower prices) that is driving this process.
On the surface, yes. But I think something far more insidious lurks beneath the surface.
(09-29-2014, 08:13 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: I guess it's the old saying - know where your food came from! ie, know the person who grew your food, and how it was raised and prepared.
That's an improvement anyway. People often say "oh I buy humanely [sic] produced meat" but they still eat at restaurants.