10-02-2014, 03:12 PM
(10-02-2014, 02:31 PM)Parsons Wrote:(10-02-2014, 12:19 PM)Monica Wrote:(10-02-2014, 03:50 AM)Unbound Wrote: especially if there is no work to control.
The animals are being controlled and killed against their will. Controlling another entity is an STS trait.
Only if the alternative wasn't feeding on another type of 2nd density life; which segues perfectly into what Tanner is trying to express:
(10-02-2014, 12:19 PM)Monica Wrote:(10-02-2014, 03:50 AM)Unbound Wrote: It's convoluted because it's black and white, this whole "one or the other" is what makes it so convoluted.
Well, 'convoluted' means complicated/twisted/confusing/intricate/nuanced, whereas 'black and white' means simple/straightforward/lacking nuance. They have opposite meanings.
I've written enough on this topic here on B4 to make a book! You really think my views are black and white?
Yes, your views are black and white (overly simplistic) because your arguement conditionally ignores my above viewpoint that you must eat some form 2nd density life to survive. I say conditionally because you say 'yes, I understand I am eating life which has consciousness' but turn around and favor in your argument one form of 2D life over another, which is convoluted. So yes, you being black and white is convoluted in this context.
Moreover, your justification for being a bigot (noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions) is by definition controlling because as Plenum said, diet is a personal matter, which you are butting in to.
PS: If you try to repeat 'it is my business because you are controlling an animal by eating it', you will be ignoring my first point again which would lack any logic. I could turn that argument on you by saying that you are controlling vegetables by eating them.
Did you seriously just call me a bigot??? Then said I ignored other points??? WOW it is you who have obviously ignored the voluminous information posted by me and the other vegetarians. We have addressed the plants issue repeatedly. We have also tolerated personal attacks while maintaining courtesy. We are guilty only of having convictions.
It's valid to say my comments are verbose. I can even understand how they might seem convoluted to someone who doesn't understand them. But ignoring counterpoints? To say that to someone who painstakingly addresses every point made? The plants issue has been addressed numerous times. I even posted multiple links, rather than repeat myself. To say I ignored that issue is verifiably false. It's just absurd. Laughable.
Your bigot comment is offensive, but I forgive you. I understand that it's easier to lash out at others, rather than face one's own feelings of guilt. I feel zero guilt about eating plants. Go ahead and try to guilt-trip me about plants. It won't work.
If anyone feels guilt about eating animals, that isn't my fault.
I won't be engaging in conversation with you, Parsons.