(10-03-2014, 04:16 PM)Monica Wrote:(10-02-2014, 10:38 PM)Parsons Wrote: Perhaps my phone doesn't have the 'empathic bond' plugin,
Ah, that explains it!
(10-02-2014, 10:38 PM)Parsons Wrote: but I have no clue how the cucumber feels about being harvested (and as far as I know, neither do you).
Precisely.
We do, however, know exactly what cows, pigs, chickens and fish feel.
That has been my point all along and completely negates the "plants suffer too" argument.
Not knowing how the plant feels does not give carte blanche to assume they don't suffer. If the plant suffers, your argument falls apart because no matter what, a part of the second density Creator is suffering.
The plant does not have vocal chords or lungs or limbs to flail about when dying. It can not viscerally express suffering. An apt analogy would be a person who is complelty paralized but has control of their senses. A better analogy would be if an animal were to be compltely paralized but could still experience all 5 physical senses. If they were tortured (not going to get graphic, use your imagination) and are unable to cry out in pain or unable to physically react in any way, is it safe to assume they aren't suffering?