(10-07-2014, 08:22 AM)Ashim Wrote: As a instinctive hunter by nature I require meat in my diet.
I don't think it's STS for truly instinctual hunters to kill for survival. Our Logos designed them that way (for some inexplicable reason). Instinctual hunters are easy to recognize: They are equipped with fangs, with which to tear the flesh of their prey.

They eagerly kill their prey with only their teeth, and delight in drinking the fresh blood.
Creatures of Instinct (Excerpt from National Geographic Documentary)
Unlike these wild lions and hyenas, domesticated cats seem to be losing their natural instinct to kill, perhaps due to being fed kitty kibble from a bag for many generations. (Or, could it be because they are nearing graduation to 3D as humans?)
While feral cats still hunt for birds and rodents, housecats often don't know what to do with the occasional mouse. I've observed my own cats catching birds, mice and rabbits, then leaving them intact, without eating them. They seem to have lost their taste for bloody carcasses.
Even the late-2D animals are evolving. Hmmm...
The human body doesn't have fangs. With the exception of vitamin B12, all nutrients found in meat are also found in plant foods. Even B12 can be synthesized in the human gut. All we need to do is leave a little dirt on our food. (But since most of us prefer to wash the dirt off, taking a supplement is preferable.)
Quote:40.14 ↥ Questioner: In dietary matters, what would be the foods that one would include and what would be the foods that one would exclude in a general way for the most or the greatest care of one’s bodily complex?
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we underline and emphasize that this information is not to be understood literally but as a link or psychological nudge for the body and the mind and spirit. Thus it is the care and respect for the self that is the true thing of importance. In this light we may iterate the basic information given for this instrument’s diet. The vegetables, the fruits, the grains, and to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism, the animal products.
Those lions clearly have a metabolism that requires meat. We don't. Modern scientific research has proven conclusively that the human body doesn't require meat.
Since you say you are an instinctual hunter, then I wonder: Are you human?

(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Wow, Monica, thanks that is a wonderful presentation. I didn't see the entire hour, but the presentation was very grounded, eye-opening and her energy was very clear. In clear, I mean that she was able to present the information without tapping into defenses and triggers, though I am pretty sure that people who are overly attached to the status quo would be triggered.
Agreed! For those who have not yet watched it: I invite you to do so. Not a slaughterhouse video, Not a PETA video, it's something else entirely. She explores the psychology of this issue. Deep stuff!
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: From what I saw, the idea of non- acceptance of the status quo of our violent, dominant/controlling, oppressive culture and society is a powerful message, that may be catalyzing for followers of the Ra material.
I had hoped...but that doesn't seem to be the case, at least not the Law of One students here at B4.
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Given that in the rubric of the Ra material, " acceptance" is viewed as an STO trait and "non-acceptance" is considered STS trait, it creates some confusion for what is truly righteous.
Yes, but that's because of the misinterpretation of the term acceptance. It doesn't mean lethargy/apathy/non-action/no choice as is commonly believed. Choice is part of the equation.
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: The acceptance/non-acceptance rubric if perceived through our personal energetic blockages and limitations ie social conditioning and culture as well as prior experiences, would certainly justify accepting the status quo and therefore accepting violence, oppression, cruelty.
Apparently!
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Those of us on the STO path, who choose to radiate and expand our connection to God, and expand infinite energy/intelligence / ie the Kingdom of God on this planet rather than continue in a disconnected and "Babylon" system, we are the ones who have to make the changes and take the action steps to create 4D. It is our work on clearing our own blockages within that will manifest the outer changes as most of us know.
Yes!
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Surely, those who have tirelessly advocated for non-violence are leading the way towards this reality. I think anyone who is on the STO path would agree to that. That is pretty much a given, right?
One would think. I sure did. But no, such is not the case, at least not as indicated by the discussions here.
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: A couple of things that I have thought about though. The outward violence that we see is a manifestation of the violence we have within. Getting that cleared is foremost, and that goes for everyone, we are all in this together.
Absolutely!
Could it not also be said that the outward violence is a manifestation of the violence we personally contribute to?
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Secondly, we have to recognize that we all exist here in a context. The food industry as a whole is violent, unsustainable, and un-holistic. Practices have developed that are raping and destroying the planet, causing more pestilence and disease,
Jo Frederiks states it succinctly:
Quote:On this basis, no child under the age of 5 will ever reach retirement age. It is mathematically impossible.
See his whole lecture here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5XX35L4fmQ#t=10
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: and developed purely for PROFIT. That is the culprit, imo. To reduce the responsibility of violence towards animals to enculturated "taste" is a bit shortsighted. We can't solve the problem by blaming each other for being less than our highest potential. We see what can happen there, it just devolves into a back and forth tit for tat argument that goes in circles, an expenditure of energy that may be worthwhile to put to other uses.
On that vein, ie. the food industry is violent, recognize the violence everywhere in the food industry. Migrant workers are totally and completely exploited for profit. Women are sexually harassed, men women and CHILDREN are exploited in poor working conditions for little money, being exposed to dangerous chemicals and other dangers. The agri-business is huge and designed to be profitable (rather than nurturing, sustaining, and loving). All people that are hooked into the system participate in it by choice whether vegetarian or not. We all contribute to violence on some level if we buy food that has come out of this violent system. That goes for the production of plants, vegetarian foods. The growing and harvesting of plants is big business, and exploiting the underprivileged and poverty-stricken is a way to keep it profitable. It's a violent system that we have established on this planet, and violent on many many levels, in thoughts words and deeds.
Yes, the whole system is violent, including plant production. Many of us are working to change that by growing our own food as much as possible, and supporting local farmers' markets. That is a huge movement.
But it's important to remember that the vast majority of food crops are used to feed farm animals.
To stop eating meat is the obvious first step.
(10-07-2014, 12:42 PM)Shemaya Wrote: It's so bad that it can feel almost hopeless that anything we do will change it.
I have sometimes felt that way, but then I notice that nearly every restaurant now offers a veggie option, large cities now have several vegan restaurants (unheard of a couple of decades ago), and our numbers are growing. Did you know that 12% of British are either vegetarian or vegan??? WOW! This number rises to 20% among people aged 16-24.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country
There is even now a whole town in India that has gone totally veg! (Just saw that on facebook...don't have verification for it though.)
The question is: Is all this too little too late?