Why I am not a vegan

[Diana]

Okay, so what is the bad thing about ingesting those things? What do you mean by "weighed down"? How does your body, mind and spirit take on that suffering or process that energy?

First, I'm not saying anything is bad. "Good" and "bad" are relative and subjective terms. What I am saying is that ingesting meat is not conducive to spiritual seeking (if that seeking is STO in nature—STS in nature such as black magic or voodoo feeds off taking life sometimes).

On a purely physiological level, when one consumes meat from an animal, one consumes the stress hormones (like cortisol) released in the animal's body when the animal was in fear and pain—fight-or-flight—before and during the slaughter. Also, the lifetime of stress levels would have kept the animal releasing protein chains of "discontented" feelings rather than beta-endorphins released from "contentedness."

One consumes these hormones and protein chains along with the meat. Fear, pain, terror, discontent are represented in these body chemicals.
By ingesting them, one adds to one's own store of these things. Those who are trying to reach peaceful, calm, balanced states of being may have a difficult enough time simply dealing with their own fears etc. Add the daily consumption of meat, and they are "weighing themselves down" with more fear to deal with.

This would be true on the physical and energetic levels. Dr. Emoto proved how even a written word could affect the matrix of water cells.

Are you saying we are eating their souls? How is that different from eating plants?

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No I'm not say we are eating their souls. And there is so much difference between eating animals and plants I am flummoxed as to how to continue to explain it. I refer you to Jade's take on this several posts back, which I reposted as a good explanation of this difference.

In my mind, this world we live in now is no more of an illusion than anything else. This is as real as everything. Real, illusion, who cares? That's an academic question, and frankly rhetorical, because we don't really know s**t about it—just speculation.

Regardless of whether you agree with my working theory, the fact remains that this existence is where this part of our consciousnesses are, right now, in this linear time construct. It can't be denied (well, it can be as you or anyone wishes, but I am talking objectively) that we would then deal with this world. People may want to deny this existence and say we are just light bodies and our physical bodies mean nothing, but I personally think this thinking is irresponsible, lazy, and cowardly. It's hard to be here, but imagining none of it matters is sheer folly to me.

In this 3D world, we KNOW the animals suffer. Many say plants do too. I think this is reasonable. However, in 3D, plants are designed to propagate through their fruits and seeds being eaten. They MAKE food. Compare that to the slaughterhouse. The difference between takng animal life and plant life, here, in 3D, where our consciousnesses are awake and functioning, is obviously different.

So, I am here now, at least some part of me. This is what I'm dealing with now. I don't deny it. I may have chosen it. I am endeavoring to reach my potential here.

Causing harm here, when one is aware of it, and it's not necessary, may serve the STS being. I have no judgments about that, only sadness for the recipients of the harm.

Also why is predator/prey behaviour "lesser" than whatever behaviour you apparently exhibit by ingesting only plants?

Predator/prey behavior is exhibited naturally in the animal kingdom. So it is 2D natural behavior. Without individuation, and then learning cause and effect, leading to compassion (or in Ra terms, choosing between STO and STS), predator/prey behavior is about survival. It is a smaller scope of awareness. In order to expand awareness, consciousness must become aware of more and greater views of existence.

The idea, to me, is to evolve. I personally want to evolve in an STO way. I don't want to take the life of an animal who obviously doesn't want to be killed and eaten. On the other hand, the plant kingdom is offering up their seeds and fruit, which benefits them, as food. Taking the food from plants removes me from predator/prey. I have now evolved a little further away from the animal kingdom toward the light being I imagine I could be at some point. (This is not to say I think the animal kingdom is lesser than the human kingdom.)

I would add that just because "spiritual leaders and gurus" do something doesn't in any way mean it is the "right" thing to do.

I agree. I always promote free thinking. And just as "good and bad" are relative and subjective, so are "right and wrong." However, it's worth looking at the numbers of spiritual leaders who promote abstaining fro meat. Why would this concept be so ubiquitous?