Why I am not a vegan

[Unbound]

The questions I am being asked are a twisted convolution of my thoughts and I will not be answering so as to not have my intentions further sullied by ridiculous thinking.

It is your choice whether to participate or not, but I do find this rather 'convenient.' It is a commonly employed tactic to insult the other person rather than engage in honest, respectful discourse. I asked you some honest questions, in an effort to understand your points. Such as: Inviting you to consider the effect of killing the animal, rather than only eating the animal. That is NOT ridiculous! That is an intelligent and thoughtful question, in response to your elaborate explanation of how you 'transmute' animal suffering by eating their flesh ritualistically. To focus only on the eating part is to miss most of the equation here. It isn't only about eating. It's about killing. That meat on your plate was a sentient being's body that had to be killed before you could eat it. That cannot be ignored. Yet you seek to ignore it by conveniently saying my thinking is 'ridiculous.'

If you don't want to answer it, that's fine. But saying my thinking is 'ridiculous' and 'sullying your intentions' is quite insulting and only illustrates my point that those who attempt to justify cruelty to animals tend to have cognitive dissonance. It is easier to just lash out at vegans, rather than actually considering another perspective.

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Although, I will say the significance of any killing is a matter of what the circumstances are, although it is, by nature, destructive. Everything must die on this plane, it is only a matter of the way in which one goes that will change the significance of death.

All humans must eventually die too. But we don't go around saying that it's ok to kill humans just because they're going to die anyway.

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I eat and enjoy meat.
There are arguments that say I should stop doing this.
I decide to continue.

This is the discussion.
In a hat.

Try and stop me.

No, you have no desire to understand my points, that much is clear, because you are still framing my thoughts with your own interpretations that have nothing to do with my actual thoughts. You are crusading.

I don't kill animals, so I cannot answer your question. The one time I saw a cop shoot a deer whom was injured on the road I burst in to tears and a rage at the injustice, so I can only imagine the difficulty I would have killing an animal myself.

What is the significance on an energetic level? It is a transition. The karma must be dealt with by the killer, and the trauma must be dealt with by the entity whom was killed. Were I to kill the animal, thus it would be my responsibility to assume the karma for the killing. I would then have to find forgiveness within myself for myself and gratitude towards the animal.

The veggies you eat are also the body of a sentient being, so your whole approach through emotional aggrandizement in an attempt to dramatize the horrific nature of death and killing is little more than a projection of your own fears/discomforts.

If you had actually considered and looked at what I was trying to express, it is the effects of the killing on the planetary mind that I seek to alleviate through my methods. You only saw the eating, but that was not the core of my explanation nor is it the focus of the technique.

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Last time I checked, death and murder is a service to others.

You seem to be confusing catalyst with service to others in the context of polarity. Yes, ultimately, everything is catalyst. It is the task of the STS entities, primarily, to provide that catalyst. (We experience catalyst in other ways as well, and one doesn't have to be STS polarized to trigger catalyst, but STS entities expressly create catalyst.)

Knowingly causing death/suffering/murder is definitely not an STO action; it's STS. It may ultimately result in catalyst, and thus service, to the victim, but that is exactly how the STS polarity operates. That describes how STS entities serve the Creator.

Again, I am unabashedly bised to STO, so I speak in terms of STO service. In this context, no, murdering an other-self is definitely NOT serving the other-self! It is the opposite! Killing another entity against their will is the ultimate act of control and violation. It is STS.

There is a story of a monk whom is traveling on a ship. The monk hears that there is a man on board who intends to kill all the passengers and take over the ship and that he is indeed capable of doing this. The Buddhist monk is then faced with the challenge of what to do with the man as the man is a skilled warrior and so will likely not be easily captured or subdued, but the vows the monk have taken include no killing. The monk eventually decides that in order to save the lives of the rest of the passengers it is better to approach the man and in the resulting scuffle the monk ends up killing the man.

Filled with remorse when the ship finally docks the monk seeks out the Buddha to try and seek forgiveness. He finds the Buddha in his retreat and approaches and explains his immense guilt over having taken a life and his regret over it.

The Buddha looks at him and then tells him that what he did was entirely out of love, not only for the many passengers whom he saved but also for the man, whom he saved from incurring the karma of killing all of those people so even though he took the man's life, it was actually more beneficial for that man to start a new incarnation.

Thus, I don't think killing is always, ever an STS action. What if your family was being threatened by someone and it comes down to kill or be killed, would you defend your family? Would you kill the person who is threatening you even if that isn't what you want to do if it means saving the lives of other innocents?

I am making this point completely out of the context of animals and meat-eating, I am not talking about that kind of killing, I am just addressing your thought that killing is always rooted in STS intentions.

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Oh, also, I would like to ask you Monica, what do you think of wild game hunting?