Why I am not a vegan

[Shemaya]

Thank you, Monica, for speaking up for all the sentient creatures.

Thank you to all (Diana, Pablismo, you, Jade, et al.) who have spoken up. Surely they are speaking and acting from their hearts and expressing compassion, standing by their convictions. Honorable and virtuous,imo.
Though, definitely, Monica is the most catalyzing of the group!

The idea of cruelty to animals does not stop at domesticated species; it is valid for all sentient creatures. And the idea that humans need meat for a healthy, complete diet is absurd and has been drilled into us by the meat and dairy industry. Unfortunately, most people are loathe to admit they have been brainwashed or have been wrong about something their whole lives, and have even been mislead, unintentionally, by their parents.

Here you are incorrect and missing a grounded whole picture perspective, and also establishing a moralistic, divisive perspective on the issue. Humans started domestication of animals thousands of years ago. It's not just parents, it has been part of the evolution of society. When fingers are pointed at others that they are "wrong" about something so basic to survival as food, obviously, it is going to stir up strong survival instincts and patterns , impressions, energy that are imprinted in our brains from thousands of years of evolution.

You cannot just sweep all that away by blaming people for their so-called STS choices, and imposing a moral standard that spiritual people should be held to.
Bear in mind that this thread is about veganism, no animal products ever. It is not about the choices to have milk (as Ghandhi did) or fish ( as Jesus did) . It becomes about eating meat as these divisive threads on the forum invariably do. The conversation does not have to be divisive however, it becomes so because of the energetic patterns and blockages of compassion to the 4D earth that is emerging. I would love to see compassionate communication about this and a gentle evolution of our society to compassionate and sustaining food production to feed the masses of our society. However it has to begin within us. If we cannot have compassion for each other, and converse in an empowering way, how can we expect the rest of the world to be empowered to find ways to live sustainably and free of cruelty? If we are going to see meat -eaters as "them" , ignorant, wrong, STS, etc., it is disempowering to our intention to create a 4D society.

A 4D society does not include a food production system based on greed and profiting off the the suffering of others. Can we address that as a root to the evil that is the torturous and cruel food production system that we have? A simplistic admonition "Stop eating meat" does not address the root of the evil, and blames the less aware for the mind control and brainwashing that is imposed on them. I say it's time we stop blaming individuals for their lack of consciousness and start blaming the real STS beings that have done the brainwashing. Rather then vegan vs. non-vegan, the real separation we want for our society is for the STS beings to go evolve on another planet, timeline or whatever, and leave this beautiful long-suffering planet so that we can all return to the beautiful Garden that she was meant to be.

Is the root of the evil the first hunter, the first farmer of a herd of animals for food? Did our agricultural system that has been developed over thousands of years start as evil, humans at root are evil? I say no. We can trace meat eating back to those firsts and there is no judgment on my part for those firsts. Can we now transform into a vegetarian society? I think yes, it will happen eventually and we are certainly headed in that direction. However until we get there, let's support and encourage the farmer who gently raises chickens and cows, the farmer who raises veggies ethically and resists GMO's and buy-outs from corporate-owned profit machines.
Can we encourage each other to make conscious choices based on what nourishes and sustains?

Can we be thankful for the Life-force that continues through each and everyone one of us and all beings on this planet and this creation, through birth, life, and death, through our evolution and on to completion?

There is rhyme and reason in this creation, and part of higher consciousness is understanding the great plan which has been devised for our world.