Who Is Your Master?

[third-density-being]

Hello Dear Yera,

Thank You for your reply.

Your Words made me realize, that there's significant "emotional charge" in labels alone. Word/label "Master" has negative connotations for my and that alone shaped in large degree my response - not only in what I've written, but above all in my understanding of your post. Thank You, that was a valuable lesson/reminder.

Now, I would like to comment on some of your statements.

(...) to truly learn from the Self one must approach it with a receptive attitude, allowing oneself to be guided without necessarily having access to the end result. (...)

I agree. Not only a receptive attitude is necessary, but also honesty with Self. And by "honesty" I also mean the readiness to question the Self and Our Beliefs, which are the base for Our thinking/understanding and even perception itself (how We select and evaluate data).

I think it is quite interesting statement (bolded one in quote of You). To have an access to the end result. Is there one? I'm asking, because it took me a while to understand, that there is no actually "end" of Our Seekings. So when We are writing/talking about "end result" it may be Our personal goal, that We decided to reach/accomplish. And yet, in this (non-material) sphere, I truly do not know how can I properly define such "end result". Every time I try to define it, at some point I realize, that what I was doing, was creating a concept of some event/ability/experience and I was trying to fit my own reality in it.
This is of course very helpful tool and the way We normally proceed in this reality - I do this despite above experience/understanding, because I need a structure of some kind, to go further with my Mind - but I do this with an uncomfortable awareness, that it is only my imaginary goal, which hopefully will lead me to deeper/more genuine understanding/experience, and that the latter one will permit me to establish another structure (goal), which will allow me to make another step in my Seekings (whatever this "step" may be).

This brings me to your Words:

If you can manage to Become the Creator with no difficulty/frustration at all, you are certainly more of a master than I.

I apologize, but it was quite a humorous for me. No, I cannot "become Creator" and I have no conscious knowledge of such experience. In fact, I consider my-Self to be at the very beginnings of my Seekings. I have problems with tracking my own thoughts and with understanding their true nature.
Therefore to direct such sentence to me, was like to ask a month old infant if He/She finished interpreting data from latest experiment conducted in Large Hadron Collider facility

No, Dear Yera, I am not a "Master", and even If I was to reach an unimaginable (for me now) depth/level/stage of my Seekings, I would never agree to be called as one. Why? Because it is my opinion, that every time such relation is established, the "Power of Self" is delegated outside of Self - and that (again - in my opinion) is harmful to the Self (in the long run/wider perspective).

What separates this approach from slavery is that the disciple always has the choice to ignore the master's words, following out of respect and faith, not fear and domination.

I can assure You, that there are times when I am ignoring my-Self. I'm rejecting my own conclusions, my own understanding, I'm arguing with Self and I do sometimes discredit my-Self as well. But this is also a Great Experience/Lesson for me, from which I am learning a lot about my-Self. It is hard for me to express it in Words, as those are always very private/intimate experiences in different, given contexts of my Seekings. Lately for example, I'm quite frustrated with work with my Beliefs, because I do not know how exactly to proceed. Literally yesterday I noticed, that in what We understand as "time", my own attitude toward Self and my reality is changing "only" while I'm being consciously aware of what my Beliefs actually are. This makes me to reconsider/redefine what I understand by label "to proceed" - even though that in the categories of the Mind I'm not "working" with beliefs, I begin to realize, that there are changes "happens" in the sphere/area to which I have no direct access to.

Now, the foundation of this “realization” brings me to another quote of You:

(…)Self-acceptance grants a sort of Amor (…)

Above is taken from context, to which I will return.
But for now, I would like to point out, that my own “armor” is my understanding. As I perceive it, it is something that permitted me to “stay on track” of my Seekings – the awareness of larger/manifold reality than Our current Creaturehood. Thanks to it my interpretations of events in my reality are not limited to causality or expected outcomes, but I’m granting a priori the possibility (if not the certainty) of distortions in my own, fundamental assumptions.
In other words I do understand, that I am limited by my Mind, but this is best, imperfect tool I possess, to work with. This is my own, personal Patch and I do understand, that it is not proper for everyone. Many Beings are gifted in emotional/spiritual sphere and are able to work effectively in this field – I am not, therefore I’m primarily relying on my Mind and my Understanding. I’m just beginning to learn how to recognize and work with my feelings/emotions and symbols.

Now I would like to quote your Words, which I do not understand:

However, as one takes a more and more active role in shaping their own experience, they gain more and more responsibility in the process. Errors that could once be excused by innocence and ignorance take on more gravity as the finer and subtler layers of seeking are exposed. Consequences of one's actions are more sharply defined, and more complex challenges emerge. Self-acceptance grants a sort of armor in facing the awesome responsibility of Creatorhood- a protection from the crippling fear of failure- which in one sense grants a pervasive ease of existence. This does not, however, remove all challenges from one's path, nor does it erase the chance of distortion arising as one attempts to face said challenges.

I’ve read your post on the “Wanderers Stories” forum and I realize that You are way a head of me in your Seekings and Experience. But I do not understand of what “errors” were You writing about and why are You attaching such gravity to it? To make mistakes is something common/natural in this field, as We all are “making steps in the darkness of Our own limitations”.
Also, I’m wondering of what “consequences” were You writing about – a consequences to the Self or Other-Selves? What kind of consequences? Why are they (if they are such for You) fearful?

But this - crippling fear of failure – is totally an alien experience to me. What do You understand by “failure” in this field? I’ve never looked at it in such categories, and as far as I understand, it is a hindering perspective in “Self-unfolding”/”Self-exploration” process.

Please explain.

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I do, however, still run into fear, discomfort, doubt and frustration, and quite often at that. The process of refining my response to these stimuli is ongoing and far from perfect. The perpetual joy comes from the worth I see in continuing the learning process in spite of these things, in watching myself grow and develop new ways of solving problems, and in the knowledge that all discomfort is transitory.

I share with You all those feelings, accept the fear. Honestly, I do not understand why this emotion is present within You. What is a cause of it?

Since there is no end to Our Seekings, there is no “perfection” – it is merely an Idea to which We can strive towards. This is of course my understanding, but If We were to actually reach/achieve “perfection”, it would mean the end of Our Seekings – and We were told on many occasions, that there is no such end.

If it’s possible, I would like to learn your Point of View in this matter.

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I think it might be of benefit to say that the point of this post is to take a concept associated almost exclusively with negativity and to free it from the stereotype to be viewed from a wider perspective. I want to make people think about conventional concepts in unconventional ways. Whether or not you, the reader, agree with my statements, I hope I've at least caused you to go "Hmmm..."

Yes, Dear Yera, You have
Edited: Thanks Isis


However at this point I would like to write couple words regarding your approach to this sphere in general. And when I’m writing about “your approach”, I’m referring to what I was able to drawn from your Words here, on this forum. Please treat it only as my opinion and my imperfect attempt to understand.

From what I’ve noticed, You have a tendency to placing “things” (goals/power/right to evaluate/etc.) outside of Self. I can only imagine, that this is a habit/tendency drawn from your past experiences, when You had a “Master”. I may be wrong, but I have an impression, that You are trying to transfer such relation to your new approach – or at least that You are strongly relating to such relation, in Seekings for your new approach / “ways of Seeking”.

Please, do not be offended by my Words – I would never want to hurt You in any way. I am only offering You my honest/genuine thoughts and I hope they will (somehow) aid You on your Patch, as your aiding me in my attempts to understand more and deeper.


All I have Best in me for You