The Nicefication of Eating Meat

[Diana]

Diana, something about this doesn't make sense.  First, I said nothing about freeing only humans, that's very interesting that you would interpret my question that way.  What I feel to be true is that until humans are free, the animals won't be free. Our enslavement of the animals is a direct reflection of our own enslavement.  I think the best way to free the oppressed animals is to free the oppressed humans. Until humans are free, nothing changes and there is no 4D and the earth descends into destruction. The only way to free them ( the animals)is for people to be active and transform our situation on this planet.  Humanity is being held in spiritual chains, and we have to shake them off.


I am not saying this is you or what you think and feel or anyone else here, but it would be a shame if the compassion some activists have for animals is covering over a deeper hatred for humanity and it's wayward sinful ways.  I am thinking of the recent movie Noah which seemed to portray this, I don't know if you are familiar with it.

Okay, I misinterpreted your statement about freeing all of humanity to mean just humanity. I understand your opinion on how freeing humans will precipitate the freeing of animals. I certainly agree that is one possibility. In the meantime, I personally cannot consume animals for so many reasons, including participating in their enslavement. Not participating in the enslavement of humans gets far more complex—for instance, paying taxes to a corrupt government that for one thing engages in wars.  

I have not seen the movie Noah. In the case of activists possibly abhorring humanity for cruelties, sure, that's reasonable. Why wouldn't it be when one can look around and see what humanity has done to the planet and all beings on it? Animals are innocent of causing this harm and suffering (it's not only factory farming, but animal testing, and all manner of horrible things such as shooting dogs with guns and throwing chickens into airplane propellors), so to focus on protecting innocent victims, I can understand. There are of course innocent humans, but there is the idea that collectively we have a responsibility for what our species has done. Hopefully those here who are helping 3D can rise above hatred in all respects. It would be an accomplishment indeed, to be able to unconditionally love all of humanity all the time. I personally don't think it's possible, being here in the trenches so to speak, without a struggle. I think it's easier for those not here, such as Ra and other beings trying to help from beyond 3D.

One of the wonderful things about this forum is the opportunity to express feelings that otherwise wouldn't be heard elsewhere. I feel we all, here, can work out how we really feel about things. It's difficult to just keep things in your head, and here, we get to actually canvass important spiritual issues. 

I do think we are very alike in many ways. I hear the compassion in your words. We have different perspectives, and hopefully we can learn from each other.