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    Thread: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO?


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    03-10-2015, 10:19 AM
    (03-09-2015, 07:59 PM)Diana Wrote:
    (03-09-2015, 06:39 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Hi Ankh and Jim,

    I agree, repression is depolarizing. Also doing something purely by willpower, to control the body, I would think is depolarizing ( as per se with our diets, especially to lose weight for instance. ) The body needs TLC, and willful control will hamper the joyful self - love that helps us to thrive .

    Heart

    Are you saying a person should just indulge every whim? 

    Regarding diet, we are probably all somewhat addicted to things such as sugar and junk food simply by being born into recent generations (at least in the U.S.). Should someone just indulge a whim (based on addiction) when that person recognizes they are feeding their body junk? In this case wouldn't it be more efficacious to "control" the body and feed it good food until the body ceases to crave junk, even though it won't create joy while the body is adjusting? Even doing this with love will probably not make the body comfortable if it is craving sugar, alcohol, junk food, etc.

    Quote:18.5 Questioner: Thank you. I have a question here from Jim that I will read verbatim: “Much of the mystic tradition of seeking on Earth holds that belief that the individual self must be erased or obliterated and the material world ignored for an entity to reach ‘nirvana,’ as it’s called, or enlightenment. What is the proper role of the individual self and its worldly activities in aiding an entity to grow more into the Law of One?”

    Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.

    The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.

    The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.

    All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.

    It is, shall we say, a shortcut to simply ignore or overcome any desire. It must instead be understood and accepted. This takes patience and experience which can be analyzed with care, with compassion for self and for other-self.

    According to Ra, one should just indulge themselves until their feelings change. Everyone will come to a point where they will stop eating meat - eventually - to be here. As with everything else, I've found acceptance is truly the fastest route to transformation. I accept that others eat meat, but I prefer a world where one doesn't eat meat. That's the world I've created for myself. Other people eating meat doesn't infringe on my world.

    I was a carnivore up until the day I watched Forks Over Knives, upon which when it was over my husband and I had both already decided to quit. Honestly it was more of a health-based decision - compassion for ourselves, really. Linda McCartney (Paul McCartney's wife) said in an interview that the two of them were having lamb for lunch one day, and looked outside to the pastures on their farm and saw the little baby lambs frolicking, and from that day forward quit. It can really be an instant decision but no one else is going to make it for you. And when the switch flips, it flips! Of course for some it gradually flips back (because participating in eating customs turns out to be a service to others...) I'm grateful to people who just reduce their meat consumption, or choose more ethical products to consume. People are slowly waking up to the horrors of our commercial farming system which is really the villain here, not the ignorant-by-choice-and-slightly-addicted consumer.
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    Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Jim Kent + - 03-08-2015, 05:30 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by darklight - 03-08-2015, 05:42 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-08-2015, 07:03 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Minyatur - 03-08-2015, 07:42 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-08-2015, 07:45 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Minyatur - 03-08-2015, 08:04 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-08-2015, 08:15 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Minyatur - 03-08-2015, 08:50 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by tamaryn - 03-08-2015, 11:59 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Diana - 03-09-2015, 11:09 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Jim Kent + - 03-09-2015, 11:14 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Diana - 03-09-2015, 11:29 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Jim Kent + - 03-09-2015, 11:34 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Ankh - 03-09-2015, 06:12 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Lighthead - 03-19-2015, 11:35 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-09-2015, 06:39 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Diana - 03-09-2015, 07:59 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-09-2015, 08:16 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Diana - 03-11-2015, 12:25 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-11-2015, 06:18 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Jade - 03-10-2015, 10:19 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-10-2015, 05:35 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-09-2015, 08:31 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by cnymicaa - 03-09-2015, 08:38 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-09-2015, 08:42 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Minyatur - 03-09-2015, 09:00 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-09-2015, 09:04 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Minyatur - 03-10-2015, 02:41 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by BlatzAdict - 03-10-2015, 10:45 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by BlatzAdict - 03-10-2015, 10:47 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Patrick - 03-10-2015, 04:43 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-10-2015, 04:56 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-10-2015, 05:18 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-10-2015, 05:41 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-10-2015, 05:43 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-10-2015, 05:45 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-10-2015, 05:47 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Minyatur - 03-11-2015, 01:27 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Matt1 - 03-18-2015, 08:16 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Monica - 03-20-2015, 01:51 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Jim Kent + - 03-20-2015, 03:25 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Monica - 03-20-2015, 06:42 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-21-2015, 09:34 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Monica - 03-21-2015, 10:50 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-21-2015, 10:36 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-21-2015, 10:58 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by AnthroHeart - 03-21-2015, 11:19 AM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Monica - 03-21-2015, 01:07 PM
    RE: Does eating meat preclude graduation to 4th D STO? - by Shemaya - 03-21-2015, 11:26 AM

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