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    Thread: The 'Xandria Material'


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    03-15-2015, 05:42 PM
    To Jade -- love your enthusiasm. You sound alot like spiritual warriors ie Sean Stone, Abby Martin, Peter Joseph... to name a few. They're courageous and inspirational.

    To Gemini -- you must have skipped the OP cuz this is the fictional material of a not so humble messenger of the Infinity/Unity Principle! Kidding aside, I appreciate the interest.

    For this post, thanks goes to David Wilcock and his Progenitor theory of interstellar outcasts which reminded me of StarTrek's Q Continuum and it's zany character. Also a big thanks to Quo for the following info.

    Quo mentions that beings are derived from combining units of Free Will and Love which they call Absolute Variance and Absolute Constancy. My take is that Determinism is synonymous with Love because 'you are determined, you have meaning and purpose, there is a reason for your existence' -- the sentiment of Logos or Love.

    Q. We attempted our first philosophical treatment and presentation of the Xandria Material at a nearby university. All things considered, it went quite well and students and faculty appreciated our efforts to think and speak philosophically and to accept open-ended questions with open minds.

    During the Q&A students had questions regarding the traditional monotheistic Omni-God and of meta-ethics and the origin of good and evil.

    They pulled no punches and were sincere and intense when they asked:

    1. Is this One Infinite Creator a fatherly Omni-God who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, all-loving, etc? Do not the terms one and infinite entail omni-ism? If so, how does this Creator allow activities ie satanic torturing of kittens and small children? Where is the so-called 'love and light' during their excruciating suffering? Can a very focused will and intent override 'love and light'? How does Xandria's All-One-Theism reconcile this?

    2. There is a branch of theology called theodicy that defends God's goodness and justice in the face of the existence of evil. Does Xandria have a coherent theodicy that is logically consistent and complete?

    3. Meta-ethics is the branch of ethics that seeks to understand the metaphysical nature of ethical properties. Major meta-ethical questions are the following. Is there such a thing as natural ethical laws that are objective and universal? If so, what purpose does evil serve? Natural ethical laws imply a 'moral absolutism' so does a complementary 'moral relativism' exist as suggested by Free Will and its complementary relationship to Determinism?

    Could Xandria address these questions and share their meta-ethical philosophy?

    As you can see these questions are well thought out and we were not quite prepared to address the ethical issues. Even so, we attempted by explaining the 'appeal to Free Will' for allowing so-called evil to exist, but which then elicited a collective 'uh...huh' from the students. Not too convincing we admit.

    Could you please elucidate on these questions or perhaps focus on one particular question and elaborate? We appreciate your willingness to address them.

    A. Yes, we welcome such challenges! We do commend you and these students for such sincere truth-seeking and leaving no stone unturned. All good educators attune to the background knowledge and level of awareness of their students and your efforts to understand the philosophical terminology and phraseology and to relate to fresh-thinking and feeling souls is most efficacious.

    Now, addressing these questions allows us the opportunity to introduce our notion of the Mythos/Topos/Logos Triad and of some, but not all, ethical properties of the seven-fold chakra system.

    In the previous session we spoke of the Logos as the spirit aspect of the Triad with the following response: For Creation to manifest and the Creator to have Being this is of, may we say, sublime necessity, and sublime necessity is expressed by the concept of the Logos which has been called the divine ordering principle of Creation which is infused with awareness, purpose and inspiration and thus the spiritual aspect of the Mythos/Topos/Logos Triad.


    The infinity of spirit is greater than the infinity of consciousness and of form, and thus Logos can be used in a standalone fashion when referring to a galaxy or sun or planet or an entity such yourselves. It is at times convenient to call your sun a Solar Logos and at other times to call it a Solar Mythos/Topos/Logos Complex or MTL Complex when deeper understanding is required. The term Mind/Body/Spirit Complex is directly derived from the abstract Mythos/Topos/Logos Complex which encompasses all forms of being.

    Here is a brief synopsis of each aspect of this triad.

    Logos -- spirit aspect, divine governing principle, order and harmony, theme, love directed
    Mythos -- mind aspect, imagination, explication, narrative, plot, will directed
    Topos --  body aspect, structure and function, setting, light directed

    We now pause to ask you if this notion feels relevant to you in an intuitive fashion.

    Q. Your synopsis is most helpful and it has a good feel so to speak. Thanks for asking and please continue.

    A. Skipping some steps and jumping forward we shall describe the basics of creation of beings such as yourselves in the context of the seven-fold chakra system and a few of its ethical parameters or properties.

    The Logos allows the sublime necessity of Beingness whose infinity inspires the Mythos to ideate. Purpose and meaning underlie consciousness of mind and form of body.

    The ideation of the Mythos allows the consideration of a unit or monad of Free Will and a unit or monad of Determinism which is Absolute Variance and Absolute Constancy, respectively. The dyadic merging of these monads creates the seed of beingness -- of entities such as yourselves.

    The Mythos provides a template or schematic in the abstract Platonic realm whereby a monad is conceived of as a circle which is an ideal Platonic form -- also considered archetypal and infused with meaning via the Logos.

    The merging or intersecting of two circles form a vesica pisces which has vertex/vortex points that interconnect in dyadic and triadic fashion to form the seven energy centers within the intersection. Interconnecting lines form the nadis of ida, pingala, and sushumna.

    The 'fleshing out' of this chakra system takes place via the Topos which extends the merging of 1-spheres or circles to merging 2-spheres, merging 3-spheres and so on continuing up to merging 7-spheres whose structure and properties you experience at a presently limited level.

    For our purposes the merging circles and vesica pisces schematic is sufficient to describe the ethical nature of the chakra system with the addition of applying the Roots of Unity to describe the natural polarity of each energy center. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd roots of Unity or of the Monad provide a quantitative basis for natural ethical laws to be derived and the notion of moral absolutism to be considered.

    We again skip the details regarding the mathematics for determining polarity and percentage values and jump to the application of CCS or Care Concern for Self and CCO or Care Concern for Other as relatable polar expressions of intent and affection.  These provide a general qualitative basis for allowing the notion of moral relativism to be considered.

    Here is a synopsis of the energy centers of this vastly elaborate system.

    Red is 86.6% CCS and 13.4% CCO of one's own kind -- personal affections
    Orange is 57.7% CCS and 42.3% CCO of one's own kind -- interpersonal affections

    Yellow is 28.8% CCS and 71.2% CCO of one's own kind -- conditional transpersonal affections including emergence of Care Concern for Transpersonal Self or CCTS

    The ROY triad expresses focused will and intent for self-preservation and preservation of one's interpersonal and group relations.

    Green is 0% CCS and 100% CCO of all kinds -- unconditional transpersonal affections including emergence of Care Concern for Transpersonal Other or CCTO.

    This is the emergence of true transpersonal and transcendental affection by which the Algebra of Dyadic Love can be applied. ROYG produces 4D STO.

    Blue is 28.8% CCO of all kinds and 71.2% CCS -- both conditional and unconditional transpersonal affections with strong focus for inner knowing and CCTS

    ROYGB favors unconditional affections and produces 5D STO while ROYB favors conditional affections and produces 4D and 5D STS.

    Indigo is 57.7% CCO of all kinds and 42.3% CCS -- both conditional and unconditional transpersonal affections with strong focus for integration of Oneness or LOO.

    ROYBI favors conditional affections and produces 6D STS that asserts a self-worshiping variant of the LOO ('I am the One') but converts to ROYGBI in 6.4D as polarities merge.

    Violet is 86.6% CCO of all kinds and 13.4% CCS -- both conditional and unconditional transpersonal affections with strong focus for integration of Allness or LoA

    ROYGBIV produces Buddhic beingness and, in Star Trek Next Generation terms, one becomes a Q of the Q Continuum by which Q refers to Quintessence and Q Continuum is the continuum or infinity of spirit.

    We find that you are reaching 'head exploding' levels and a wrapping up of this session is noted.

    Do you have one final question?

    Q. We did not cover the Omni-God question. Do you have a quick answer as to why your All-One-Theism reconciles various issues regarding the notion of One Infinite Creator?

    A. Please consider contemplating the Free Will/Determinism dynamic in terms of a zooming in of the Mandelbrot Set and observing deterministic, yet free ranging, karmic cause-effect formations that never stay static as one continues to zoom in. On a meditative and contemplative level of this infinite process one may feel Logoic harmony and the affection of Faith and Trust may be realized.

    Where a descriptive answer fails we attempt to provide this prescriptive answer which has potential for BEE which acronyms for 'being, embodying, and experiencing'.

    So we suggest that you strive to BEE the Mandelbrot Set Mythos/Topos/Logos Complex to gain new insight.

    Q. That is most apropos and it sounds as though a group experience of this kind of cinematic excursion into the Mandelbrot MTL Complex would magnify the effect.

    A. Yes, most certainly. We also enjoyed this group experience along with a few StarTrek episodes of Q and his antics.

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    The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 01-25-2015, 06:00 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by Dekalb_Blues - 01-27-2015, 02:07 AM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 02-08-2015, 04:47 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 02-15-2015, 01:34 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 02-22-2015, 04:20 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by AnthroHeart - 02-22-2015, 07:16 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 03-01-2015, 03:13 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by Jade - 03-02-2015, 01:12 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by lovecast - 03-03-2015, 07:58 AM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by AnthroHeart - 03-07-2015, 01:28 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 03-15-2015, 05:42 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by 4Dsunrise - 03-27-2015, 07:23 PM
    RE: The 'Xandria Material' - by Lighthead - 03-27-2015, 08:42 PM
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