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    Thread: Are Human Beings On Earth Free?


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    03-23-2015, 07:30 AM (This post was last modified: 03-23-2015, 07:31 AM by Shemaya.)
    (03-23-2015, 02:36 AM)jody Wrote:
    (03-23-2015, 12:05 AM)isis Wrote: What do you think, Jody? Are human beings on Earth free?

    My belief is yes. 

    I also believe that all of you are exactly correct, for my opinion is that our belief creates our reality. 
      
    I don't know , about that Jody. The way I think about it, our collective beliefs create our collective reality.

    I think if people like Christ, or Ghandhi or MLK fell back on your assertion, socially we would have made no progress and people today would be more oppressed than they are.

    Truthfully, our social system is set up to extract energy from the lower classes in order to concentrate wealth, power and privilege for the few.  It's set up to dull people's minds, and abuse and hurt so that our creative abilities and power is turned down and we remain cogs in a wheel.

    While those of us speaking on this forum have many freedoms, and free will choices in our daily lives, that is not true for a woman under Taliban rule, or a person who has been tricked into sexual slavery, or a child labor in in the fields for cotton. And those other- selves are us.  If we can't see that, than we have missed the point of the LOO.

    While I wholly agree that in my position as a rich Westerner I have many freedoms, that is not true for so many of the world's population.  Until we make things right on this planet, we , if we are service to others, are not " free" in the truest and spiritual sense of the word.

    That is the reason why so many beings who " answered the call" were born in these times, to help usher in true freedom for the whole planet.  This freedom has to start in our minds and the subtle realms first before it can manifest.  It is our collective, planetary consciousness, that creates the world we see.  If we look at a rape victim, or a soldier who dropped an atomic bomb and say, " you are free" , it is just simply not true on this level.
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    Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by jody - 03-21-2015, 11:36 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by AnthroHeart - 03-21-2015, 11:36 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Minyatur - 03-21-2015, 11:40 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-21-2015, 11:48 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by AnthroHeart - 03-21-2015, 11:49 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-21-2015, 11:56 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by AnthroHeart - 03-21-2015, 11:58 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Minyatur - 03-21-2015, 11:54 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by AnthroHeart - 03-21-2015, 11:57 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by darklight - 03-21-2015, 01:29 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by isis - 03-21-2015, 02:50 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by outerheaven - 03-21-2015, 03:34 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by anagogy - 03-21-2015, 05:01 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Nicholas - 03-21-2015, 09:03 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Patrick - 03-21-2015, 10:14 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Spaced - 03-22-2015, 01:51 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by tamaryn - 03-22-2015, 02:25 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Billy - 03-22-2015, 04:37 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Plenum - 03-22-2015, 09:50 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Billy - 03-22-2015, 10:05 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Jade - 03-22-2015, 11:19 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by ScottK - 03-22-2015, 03:36 PM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by isis - 03-22-2015, 09:07 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-22-2015, 09:12 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by AnthroHeart - 03-22-2015, 09:13 PM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Minyatur - 03-23-2015, 11:16 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by isis - 03-23-2015, 12:05 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by jody - 03-23-2015, 02:36 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-23-2015, 07:30 AM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-23-2015, 08:27 AM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-24-2015, 01:45 PM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Minyatur - 03-23-2015, 02:51 PM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by AnthroHeart - 03-23-2015, 02:55 PM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-24-2015, 09:06 AM
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    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Shemaya - 03-24-2015, 11:53 AM
    RE: Are Human Beings On Earth Free? - by Minyatur - 03-24-2015, 03:38 PM
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