(03-07-2015, 03:50 AM)Shemaya Wrote: I said nothing about freeing only humans, that's very interesting that you would interpret my question that way.
I interpreted it that way too, because you said "all of humanity" so that seemed to indicate you meant only humans.
(03-07-2015, 03:50 AM)Shemaya Wrote: What I feel to be true is that until humans are free, the animals won't be free. Our enslavement of the animals is a direct reflection of our own enslavement.
And vice versa. Why separate them? Oppression is the same, whether the victim is a human or a cow. Maybe humans continue to be oppressed because of their refusal to quit oppressing their younger other-selves... :idea:
(03-07-2015, 03:50 AM)Shemaya Wrote: I think the best way to free the oppressed animals is to free the oppressed humans. Until humans are free, nothing changes and there is no 4D and the earth descends into destruction.
What if the same could be said about our younger other-selves? What IF:
Until animals are free, nothing changes and there is no 4D...
There are 7 billion humans on this planet. How many are oppressed? I don't know the answer to that, but it's probably less than half, wouldn't you say? So, maybe 3-4 billion, tops?
Now compare that to 150 billion animals oppressed and killed for meat every year.
More Than 150 Billion Animals Slaughtered Every Year
The numbers of sentient beings being oppressed and killed, and many of them tortured, is staggering.
Quote:These are the numbers of animals killed worldwide by the meat, egg, and dairy industries since you opened this webpage. These numbers do NOT include the many millions of animals killed each year in vivisection laboratories. They do NOT include the millions of dogs and cats killed in animal shelters every year. They do NOT include the animals who died while held captive in the animal-slavery enterprises of circuses, rodeos, zoos, and marine parks. They do NOT include the animals killed while pressed into such blood sports as bullfighting, cockfighting, dogfighting, and bear-baiting, nor do they include horses and greyhounds who were exterminated after they were no longer deemed suitable for racing.
Hmmm...who is tilting the planet here? Yes, human oppression is a huge problem, but most of us here already agree on that. And many of us already do activism for human oppression. But the majority of people here not only disagree that animals are oppressed at all, but they continue to take part in the oppression!
(03-07-2015, 03:50 AM)Shemaya Wrote: The only way to free them ( the animals)is for people to be active and transform our situation on this planet.
I agree with the being active part. That's what we're doing. Being active.

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