03-25-2015, 08:19 PM
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(03-25-2015, 06:28 PM)Monica Wrote:(03-25-2015, 02:08 PM)isis Wrote: I think an animal wanting to escape captivity is natural rather than naughty. The fact that it hasn't always behaved that way I consider immaterial.
I don't think it has anything to do with captivity, in the case of loved, well-cared-for dogs like Loki, though that may be true in many cases of animals escaping. Dogs are pack animals and consider their humans, and all members of their household (including the cats!) part of their pack. They just like to get out because they're curious, bored or mischievous. My neighbor's rottie gets out all the time, runs around, stops by to say hi, and then crawls back under the fence.
Dogs have the intelligence of a human toddler, and a similar disposition! Having a dog is like having a child who never grows up! Maybe that's why they're so endearing.
You don't think Loki's breaking out of captivity has anything to do with wanting to break out of captivity?
I wasn't insinuating that Loki wants out so he can run away forever & find a new pack - you know that, right? I think he just wants to be free to come & go as he pleases - which I think is understandable.
You agree with Thomas that Loki's breaking out is "naughty" behavior rather than natural/something-to-be-expected behavior?
You must be a dog whisperer if you're able to say matter-of-factly that dogs break out just bc they're "curious, bored, or mischievous." Did your dogs tell you that?
Not too long ago I brought a cat into my place to live with me that was a stray. I had planned to just let her be an indoors cat & maybe leash-train her, bc I live in apt & not on the 1st floor...but she was (obviously) missing the outdoors so much. I couldn't stand it. I found a friend willing to take her, that lives in a nice neighborhood, & now my sweet Maui gets to come & go as she pleases & she chooses to stay outside all day but occasionally comes in for a snack or water. She roams the neighborhood. All of the neighbors know her. At nightfall she meows to be let inside.
When she lived with me was she trying to break out every time the door was opened bc she was just curious, bored, or just being mischievous? I don't think so. I think she just didn't like the captivity...& of course gravely missed the outdoors...but I'm sure that if anyone tried to keep her in a fenced in area *outside* that she would attempt to break out at all costs even if the fence was 20 feet high & the space was 10 acres.
Cats & dogs might be as intelligent as toddlers but I think they know when they're being held captive in a certain space & I don't think most care for it too much - no matter how much they love their owners.