03-27-2015, 12:25 PM
(03-26-2015, 06:59 AM)Nicholas Wrote:(03-25-2015, 07:40 PM)Diana Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. How so? I would like the opportunity to understand why you think this.
And I must apologise to you also, more so really as I took your last sentence completely out of context and framed it into a negatively judgemental statement. I am sorry.
The reason behind it was that during the process of discussions regarding the consumption of meat, its ethical foundations, and whether there is a place for it in 4D, in various threads I have perceived a lack of acceptance with regards to the expressed views of other members on Bring4th. I detected a type of irony at times where compassion for other members is forgotten about during these said discussions.
Apology accepted and thank you for the explanation.
You may or may not read the original closed meat thread where all angles of this subject are expressed. There is the archive that a few of us put together with many of the repeated concepts and questions answered from our (vegetarians) points of view, which Monica has recently bumped to its own thread.
I see the lack of acceptance you perceive differently. If you read through the other threads devoted to this subject, you may see that there has been non-acceptance for vegetarians and especially vegans, and sometimes downright attacking, accusations, name-calling, sarcasm, implied insults, etc. Very few here seem to see it this way. I am not complaining as I don't really care about defending myself; I am here to discuss things I don't discuss "out in the world"; I am just giving you another perspective. When I say I don't care about defending myself, that doesn't mean I won't defend my point of view.
I am straight-forward and rational. So, in my case, I like to say what I think as authentically as possible. I do endeavor to be respectful. Meat-eating is a difficult subject to canvass. Would there be a discussion at all if we all just said, Okay, everyone has free will so do whatever they want? Of course this is true, but aren't we here to DISCUSS the implications of eating meat (in various threads)? What would anyone here expect a vegetarian to say regarding this subject? That we think it's fine to torture animals? I'm not evolved enough to be above this world so far that I can feel that. I do accept it in general as the point at which 3D existence has evolved to, but I don't like it.
Everyone deserves to make their own choices, and I promote that 100%. That is a different subject than—though relevant to—the implications of eating meat.