Why I am not a vegan

[Monica]

Well, I didn't say that you, Diana, specifically, invalidated either.  But the posts Monica linked basically seemed to argue that it wasn't advice for anybody but Carla and that fact seemingly invalidated it being supportive of the idea that Ra, the sixth density STO being of light, would advocate the eating of meat for anyone other than Carla.

I don't think Ra advocated the eating of meat at all, for anyone, even Carla. I think that quote is simply congruent with the way Ra always avoided telling them exactly what to do, in respect to free will. Ra acknowledged that Carla already ate meat, and gave advice in accordance with her choices.

Notice that in the other quote, that was general (rather than for Carla), Ra was careful to use the term animal products rather than meat. Animal products could be eggs or dairy, which could possibly be acquired with slightly less cruelty than meat (I say slightly because the calves are still stolen from their mothers, and slaughtered, the cows are still kept pregnant, and killed at the end of their productive years).

Still, being that Ra chose their words very carefully, it's no accident that they said meat when referring to Carla, and animal products when referring to the human diet in general.

Furthermore, Ra specifically stated to the extent necessary, thus leaving it open for each person to decide. There is no biological need for animal products at all...for any human. So extrapolating from that, Ra seemed to be very clearly NOT supporting the eating of animal products at all, for anyone.

Not only that, but all of Ra's words should be factored into the equation. Ra never gave us any rules to follow, like religions do. Rather, Ra taught us principles. Quite simply, dominating and killing a sentient mind-body complex against their will doesn't seem to be congruent with the STO path.

The reason I bring it up, is that any time anyone brings it up, they are linked to a bunch of past posts that supposedly clear up why it it isn't good advice for anyone.  And that it has all been "figured out" before somehow, and that it no longer warrants discussion.  And that seems like a cop out to me, and an easy way to avoid discussing it, or thinking about it further.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I am happy to discuss it further! I simply want to add what has been previously said, to the current conversation. I don't want to repeat myself. So I include the links to the old discussions, in the hopes that you will first read them, and integrate those comments into the current discussion. I am happy to continue the discussion with anyone, but do ask that they at least read those other comments first, for the sake of better understanding. Then we can continue.

Sometimes, in the spirit of thinking for ourselves, it is good to tread over old ground, to discover the fine nuances of truth in the cracks of the rocks around the issue.  And it is okay to discuss things over again, in a newer thread, that is not just a database of old posts.

Agreed! At the same time, there are valuable nuggets in those old discussions, that can add to the current one.

But anyway, the logic seemingly offered doesn't hold up for me, because it is like it assumes that Carla's physiology was sooooooooooo rare that nobody else in the world would benefit from those suggestions that were tailored to Carla.

I don't think her physiology was any different. There are many people with medical conditions. But, at the same time, I prefer not to discuss Carla's choices, because she is a real person. It's rather delicate though, being that they did choose to ask the questions of Ra, and they did choose to publish Ra's responses. So, I just ask that we keep it respectful of Carla.

I hold the Ra channelings dear as well.  And don't take it as bible, but I've also learned so much from Ra's wisdom, that I can't just brush off a topic that they *DID* to some extent offer words on, just because I don't like what they say.  So we have to ask ourselves, again, in the spirit of thinking for ourselves, if Ra is a sixth density service to others being of light, and it is allegedly depolarizing for an STO being to eat meat from animals, why would they advise it for Carla, an obviously STO being?  Wouldn't they have offered her an STO vegan alternative instead?  I mean, if it was unnecessary.

Just something worth thinking about, I thought.

Personally, I resonate almost 100% with virtually everything Ra has said. I have no conflicts with the Material.

I don't think they did advise Carla to eat meat at all. I think they accepted that she already did, and worked with her according to her own choices.

Remember, Don never asked Ra if eating meat was depolarizing. Nor did he ever ask anything about eating meat from the perspective of the victims. The question was only asked in the context of Carla's allergies.

In analyzing Ra's response, I think it's important to remember Ra's M.O.: Ra always answered direct questions and didn't usually volunteer information that wasn't asked for.