(04-05-2015, 04:36 PM)anagogy Wrote: Okay, Ra doesn't volunteer information unless asked. Let's work with that.
Isn't Ra still STO?
Ra is beyond polarity, but biased towards STO, since that was their chosen polarity.
(04-05-2015, 04:36 PM)anagogy Wrote: Don't they take the free will of all into consideration when giving advice? Even the animals? Why wouldn't they just not mention meat at all? And simply suggest some plant sourced protein?
Because that would have been telling Carla what to do. Don asked specifically about what Carla should eat to avoid her allergy flareups. Was that an appropriate time for Ra to totally revamp Carla's diet? Don never asked Ra how eating meat affected Carla's polarity, or anyone else's either. Nor did Don ever ask about the spiritual implications of eating meat. It doesn't seem to have even entered his mind.
(04-05-2015, 04:36 PM)anagogy Wrote: They didn't have to even mention meats, hence no volunteering information about it. If it was my custom to lie, would Ra incorporate the advice of lying into my behavior if I asked advice on how to better my situation in life? Or if it was my custom to murder humans (and furthermore believed it was the right thing to do, lets say I thought I was protecting my people by performing some kind of sacrifice (i'm thinking of tribal ancient humans)) would they incorporate that into advice about someone? Would they not say anything? To respect my free will decisions? I sincerely doubt that.
Good questions. I'd say it would depend on exactly what questions you asked.
Don, Carla and Jim are/were all wonderful people. But none of them was 100% perfect in every way. Ra didn't address any of their personal faults at all, ever.
(04-05-2015, 04:36 PM)anagogy Wrote: Do you? These are extreme hypotheticals, but I can't in all honesty think an STO being would not say anything (if it were, in fact, extremely depolarizing).
And suppose you're right, and Ra is just accepting the free will decisions of a given person in such a dialog, isn't that telling? That a sixth density being of light feels no need to be an activist on the issue and try to change people? What do you make of that? What example is Ra setting?
But Ra did address it, in the other quote. The one that was about diet in general. Ra specifically said plant foods, and animal products (not meat) to the extent necessary for individual metabolism.
I think Ra recognized that humans are in a transition away from eating our younger other-selves. I think Ra was also quite aware that science was being to prove that humans don't need meat at all, and in fact don't even need any animal protein at all. But, some people transition more easily than others. Due to metabolic typing, some people do find the transition challenging. I think Ra took all this into consideration and allowed a bit of wiggle room: to the extent necessary.
What does this mean? I think it means exactly what it says: Eat animal products ONLY if necessary. For most people, that is zero. For others, it might mean in small amounts, only temporarily, as the person makes the adjustments and learns how to thrive on a plant-based diet. But even in that case, the goal for a serious spiritual seeker would, presumably, be to not knowingly contribute to cruelty. Even for those in the minority who need a little more time and education to transition to fully vegan, the goal is still the same. It just might take a little more effort for them, and if so, they have animal products (organic eggs and dairy) rather than dead animals, to cushion their transition, only to the extent necessary. As they get educated about how to thrive, it won't be necessary at all. Ra knew all this and chose their words very carefully.
I don't think Ra ever intended for this to mean eat hamburgers and bacon any time, because they like the taste.
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