04-06-2015, 01:29 PM
(04-06-2015, 12:51 PM)Diana Wrote: I am not sure what you are trying to say about the bible and Carla. Could you restate?
Everyone is unique, yes. But I can only imagine that those of Ra would not be egocentric as humans are about themselves. Though they honor the importance of free will and choice in this density, Ra would not just consider human life as important. Sure, some people may "feel" they need meat (I don't think this is true for humans, but that's MY opinion), but to have that be the ONLY consideration is typical of humans.
I am beginning to question the efficacy of having this conversation, here. I feel that here for some reason, at B4, there is a particular tenaciousness in the way the idea of eating meat is clung to. Does anyone here REALLY think it's the best choice for humans—especially those who are interested in evolving? If so, why? Would meat be 4D food, for instance? Consider this one point from just the perspective of being a human who consumes food: Meat carries the stress and fear chemicals released when the animal was slaughtered (and the stress chemicals released if the animal lived in bad circumstances). So you literally consume fear and stress.
Sure, in the past, centuries and millennia ago (and in small pockets of indigenous peoples now) hunting animals for food was part of survival. But on an evolutionary scale, humanity was closer to animals then. We were more animal-like—early 3D.
Basically, the argument has been offered that the only reason Ra brought up eating meat was, allegedly, because it was just Ra catering to Carla's belief or desire surrounding meat.
I think that's an extremely illogical conclusion.
I'll repost what I said to Monica earlier in the thread because it is the same essential question, rephrased in a different way:
If it was my custom to lie, would Ra then incorporate the advice of lying into my behavior if I asked advice on how to better my situation in life? Or if it was my custom to murder humans (and furthermore believed it was the right thing to do, lets say I thought I was protecting my people by performing some kind of sacrifice (i'm thinking of tribal ancient humans)) would they incorporate that into advice about someone? Would they not say anything? To respect or cater to my free will decisions/beliefs? I sincerely doubt that. These actions would not be consonant with the Law of One.
The question whether meat is best for this or that is irrelevant. Do you think that all beings desire the same thing? A vegan or vegetarian diet may be better for this or that, and a diet of meat may be better for this or that. Again, irrelevant. It is not our place to make hard and fast rules about diet. It fails to take into account the uniqueness of all beings.
It is the idea, promulgated, that eating is meat is wrong, somehow. *That* is the issue. It is the constant judgment of others who eat meat, as being somehow wrong for doing that. I maintain it is not wrong to eat meat. And it doesn't have to polarize you negatively either.
Animal abuse, and eating meat are two *separate* things. Obviously, there is a whole lot wrong with factory farming. And plenty of abuse happens there. It just doesn't have to be that way. And I don't think anyone would argue that eating meat EVERY single day is probably not a good idea. But then again, who am I to judge?
Correlation does not equal causation. It is naive to think eating meat and animal abuse are synonymous. It is the constant anthropomorphization of animals. They are different than us. Not lesser, not better, but different. Yes, they have emotions, yes they have minds, yes they see the world differently than you, just as minerals see the world different from us, and fourth density beings see the world differently than us.
And there can be compassion in using animals for food, too. To actually think that a transformation to spirit in as painless and quick a way as possible by a skilled hunter is inherently worse than slowly dying in the wild, by disease, or because it got so old it's teeth fell out and it slowly starved to death, is naive at best, and deliberately ignorant at worst.