(04-08-2015, 11:22 AM)Bluebell Wrote: because they incarnated so. to me it makes no difference if ur 1-2-3D. if ur my family ur my family as a soul regardless of density. animal souls r unveiled so i connect w them easily. pets r 2D but they're 3D in training. they're like small children. obviously i would protect the most vulnerable family member w my life, w force. there's no question.
yes i buy meat to supplement myself. i have bought meat to feed my pet when i didn't eat meat because i couldn't bare him to feel deprived. i buy it to stay healthy now myself after becoming ill. but if i friended a cow i might protect her similarly. it's a grey issue for me. there's no morality, only survival.
So does an animal not have any value of their own? Do they only have value if some human decided to love them?
Here are some pet cows and pet pigs. Their humans love them as much as you love your pet, most likely.
Who let the cow into the house? adorable!
Bull saved from bullfight becomes a docile pet
Pigs Are Awesome: Compilation <<== Gosh I wonder what happened to these pigs? Did they accidentally incarnate into pig bodies when they meant to be dogs?
OR...are pigs more like dogs than we think?
(04-08-2015, 11:22 AM)Bluebell Wrote: i just don't think guilting people is the way.
I don't guilt-trip anyone. I proved this by telling people that eating tomatoes was STS. No one cared.
Please quit trying to guilt-trip me about guilt-tripping!!! It's NOT my fault if anyone feels guilty! I'm really tired of people telling me that. But guess what? I don't feel guilty! Annoyed, yes, SAD, yes, but NOT guilty. Guilt comes from within.
I cannot make anyone feel guilty about anything. If anyone feels guilty, please quit vomiting your guilt all over me. It's NOT my fault. I express my views, and I back them up, but everyone is free to disagree, and offer counterpoints if they wish. That's what a discussion is.
If eating animals is no big deal, then my posting videos of what happens to those animals, in order to turn them into meat, should be no big deal.
Those videos are REAL. If anyone has issues with them, that is NOT my fault. Maybe instead of blaming me for their guilt, people might want to take a look at what is causing them to feel guilty. Or ignore it. Their choice.
(04-08-2015, 11:22 AM)Bluebell Wrote: i think u take others' learning path away by muddying it w urs. how can people find truth for themselves if ur in the way? let it go.
Gosh, I certainly don't want to do that! Maybe you're right: I should never again contribute to this discussion (or any other). When other people choose to click on this thread, somehow it is MY fault and I am getting in the way of them finding their own truth.
OK got it. Thank you for setting me straight on that.
Carry on then...