Simultaneity, regarding the OIC's origins

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Yet what is the magical property of the equation - "="? What does it mean for something to equal or be equal to something else?

I always assumed infinity inferred equality through unity.  All is One, no-thing is any better or worse than any-thing else.

I always thought Free Will was closest expressed in the equation .99 = 1.

The continual forever rising upwards into knowing complete self, facilitated by Free Will.

I'm so happy you guys engage me on these things.  0 = 1 = Infinity, or Infinity = 0 = 1 has been my go to way of explaining the concept of the Original Thought to others, but so far no one has understood it at all.

I actually believe if you want to better understand the ways of the Law of One you can add against/next to everything a INF-Scale or Infinity-Scale that makes that item = Infinity and everything else around it.  Everything can go on the Infinity Scale, everything within the Infinity Scale is in itself an individual Unit but also Equal to all other Units.  While different, they are still the same.

I didn't say much about the OP because it simply went very well with what I had already thought for myself. It was great to see that ideas I've had were included in later portions of the Ra material I haven't even read yet and that others do view things as I view them.

For me it all started with "I am the Alpha and the Omega" in the christian bible. That quote made me think for years about the nature of time and it's relationship with a supreme God. It became evident to me that God could only be the simultaneous beginning and ending of all things and that without this existence does not make any sense.

I get the 0 = 1 = Infinity and it is like what I found for myself but somehow I am not totally satisfied with this. This doesn't give purpose to beingness nor a way for it to be and it remains that it could simply not be.

This is the exact reason why I made this thread.  0 = 1 = Infinity sounds too easy.  Too simply.  I thought that it was proven by how 1 divided by 0 = infinity.  And that the Law of One created the contextual 0 = 1, from supposedly something/nothing came some-thing.  0 is both the Void and the Potential, potentially the Feminine, with 1 being the Plenum, the Kinetic, potentially the Masculine.  Infinity being the Simultaneity Whole, potentially and kinetically All and One.

I just don't know but I desire to aid the creator in it's grand mysterious origin, in hopes that it'll shed light for me too.  So far I know there is a singular pattern repeated infinitely, and that it may very well be the very most basic intelligent design that constitutes our Universal Reality.  A Straight Line Spiral, or basically a line that curves with the Golden Ration.  There's a Unified theory, that I think I can find.  Okay, basically this combined with Dewey B. Larsons theories may be the closest I have to a scientific theoretical explanation for the Universe.
http://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal/comm...tribution/

But it still can't explain that great big unknown origin!!  So I delve and contemplate and think.  It's fun, it's something to do.

This is an interesting thread to me, because a few weeks ago I found myself "randomly" thinking that

1
--     =     ∞
0

and that this reflected the relationship between the Creator and creation.

I'm guessing someone somewhere is beaming this idea towards humanity to aid in its understanding.
I understand it as follows: one is the unitary consciousness of the Creator.  0 represents the fact that when unity divides into countless forms, each single form represents an infinitesimal portion of that oneness.  Yet the infinite number of 0's combined add up to the Great Unity.

That is another great way of explaining the same logic I intuitively stumbled upon.  I don't think it's someone beaming the idea to us, but more the mechanisms of intuition taking place in our mental thoughts and yearnings.

If I remember correctly Ra said that Infinity needed to be One for it to be. You can argue that there are infinite sub-infinities within it and that can be hardly wrong as we all are sub-infinities within the One Infinity.

Why do you all think Beingness is a satisfactory answer to Infinity? Nothingness could have been. It's pretty easy you simply need to have no energy whatsoever. Which is why I ask, why is there even energy? To permit beingness maybe? Fine but why could not beingness have not been? In my opinion there was eternal void before or rather simulatenously to eternal beingness. As we experienced infinite beingness, we also experienced infinite nothingness.

Speaking of the One Infinity, I think it is easier to picture it as a singularity. One point into which exists only a matrix of one single wave with simply infinite states. This point has no time, no space, no nothing. Yet from within it's matrix of infinite states exists the potential of all things to be.

I didn't say much about the OP because it simply went very well with what I had already thought for myself. It was great to see that ideas I've had were included in later portions of the Ra material I haven't even read yet and that others do view things as I view them.

For me it all started with "I am the Alpha and the Omega" in the christian bible. That quote made me think for years about the nature of time and it's relationship with a supreme God. It became evident to me that God could only be the simultaneous beginning and ending of all things and that without this existence does not make any sense.

I get the 0 = 1 = Infinity and it is like what I found for myself but somehow I am not totally satisfied with this. This doesn't give purpose to beingness nor a way for it to be and it remains that it could simply not be.

But see, that is precisely why nothingness could not have been.  If there was a total lack of anything in some hypothetical beginning, there is simply *no way* anything could happen from it.  There are no ingredients in that infinite state of lack for any spark to be lit.  And if there were, it wouldn't have been nothing in the first place.  This is exactly why nothingness is a logical dead end in this department.

When you accept that there is no nothingness, never was, never will be, it all begins to click into place.  There is just infinity, which is everythingness, which at its heart is Beingness, or awareness -- the unblinking eye of consciousness, which is simply *existence itself*, because if there was no observer, could you really say anything existed at all?  The infinite and eternal observer validates the fact that *we are*.  I AM.  I am aware, therefore I am.

6.7 Questioner: How were you able to make the transition from Venus, and I assume the sixth dimension, which— would that be invisible when you reached here? Did you have to change your dimensions to walk on the Earth?

Ra: You will remember the exercise of the wind. The dissolution into nothingness is the dissolution into unity, for there is no nothingness. From the sixth dimension, we are capable of manipulating, by thought, the intelligent infinity present in each particle of light or distorted light so that we were able to clothe ourselves in a replica visible in the third density of our mind/body/spirit complexes in the sixth density. We were allowed this experiment by the Council which guards this planet.

When I used to meditate on this question, of why there is anything at all, I was offered the image of a kind of central sun, or infinity star.  The brightness of which, was of infinite strength.  Of course, the image was only a symbol, but I was able to generally extrapolate the symbolism from the image, to the best of my ability.  The light that radiated off the star was truth itself.  As it radiated from the Source of truth it would thin out, or attenuate, the further it stretched away from the center of truth, or love and light.  It wasn't just truth, it was also infinite love, unity, and infinite action, or aliveness, or what we think of as "energy".  The void of darkness that surrounded the star was falsity.  It was simply the lack of truth.  That is what made it darkness, as opposed to light.  There was no actual opposite to existence, just the illusion of one.  The light that radiated toward this darkness would not disappear it just thinned out to the point where it would have what it perceived, as experiences of illusion or falsity.  Of darkness.  It would even get confused and think it was separate from the rest of the light (this is not actually possible).  Eventually it would reach the limits of the illusory void of falsity (which as I said, was actually just attenuated truth, or those nooks and crannies of infinity that allowed for perspectives of consciousness with less than total congruency with infinite unity), and it would bounce off it and make a return trip to the center of the star.

This was the inevitable heart beat of existence.  The focusing outwards and inwards till the focuses were complete.  It is an eternal heartbeat, and octave to octave is a heart beat of this divine source.

I am reminded of a quote attributed to Michelangelo, "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free."

The point is, the angel was already in the statue, and Michelangelo simply whittled away all that was not the statue.  And thus, the creation was apparent.  That is *precisely* how our illusion of reality was culled out of the infinity that was already there.  The parameters of the illusion were carved out of the plenum of everythingness, and the *illusory* opposite to Existence, Truth, or Oneness, became the contrasting backdrop of that creation.

The marble, or plenum of infinite possibilities, so to speak, was always there.  Always has been.  I realize this is hard for the mind to grasp, but I feel very strongly this was so.  And all these experiences, we seem to be having, are just portions of that infinity that were always there.  It is our identification with portions of this infinity which gives us the perception of moving through change.  No change is actually occurring however.  When you are one with everything, you can identify with anything, and create an illusory separation between it, and everything else.  We identify as persons, and so we seem to be persons.  But we are really infinite Beingness.   

We only perceive what we do, because we have forgotten the rest of infinity that is still always and forever there, but is obfuscated by our current perspective of consciousness.

I must highly disagree with the notion that nothingness does not exist.  It ignores Simultaneity which Ra does say is occurring.  It is not that I am inferring that the existence of a Nothingness implies a literal Start and End, nor am I inferring the existence of a Nothingness implies a Void.  Simultaneity states that Paradoxes not only Exist, but can Paradoxically Exist.  Think of this as a Plenum/Void scenario that never actually had a Start, but simply came into being, by the Will of the Creator in its infinite intelligence (or essentially does not 'come into' but simply manifests into an illusion of 'coming into' if that helps), and allowed for the paradox of a Start that never Begun, a NonStart.  Furthermore your quote of Ra referring The dissolution into nothingness is the dissolution into unity, for there is no nothingness. is out of context and not meant literally, but is to aid in the understanding that there is only one thing, Unity.  Dimensions and Traveling were implying a nothingness in between is what I imagine Ra picked up from Don, especially this early in the Ra contact.  I do believe you've taken literally something not meant literally but generally.  But that is my interpretation.

6.7 Questioner: How were you able to make the transition from Venus, and I assume the sixth dimension, which— would that be invisible when you reached here? Did you have to change your dimensions to walk on the Earth?

Ra: You will remember the exercise of the wind. The dissolution into nothingness is the dissolution into unity, for there is no nothingness. From the sixth dimension, we are capable of manipulating, by thought, the intelligent infinity present in each particle of light or distorted light so that we were able to clothe ourselves in a replica visible in the third density of our mind/body/spirit complexes in the sixth density. We were allowed this experiment by the Council which guards this planet.

Ra's bolded answer is in context to Don referencing as if Ra magically disappears and reappears as if teleporting through space and time as another way of viewing it, Ra says this cannot be for the 'absence of' is an illusion to the 'being of'.  The contrasting or saying that dissolution into nothingness is dissolution into unity is also surmising what I'm trying to say Simultaneity points out.  Nothingness, if it exists, is still something.  There is only One.  Furthermore, Ra provides more linking material to aid in this removal of separation in conceptual thought by providing explanation that from 6D Ra was able to create their 3D forms to wear while being 6D entities, imagine your Higher Self wearing your Body.  This is apparently possible (yay infinity~), maybe not in the context of your Literal Higher Self, but that a 6D being can wear a 3D 'suit'.  Basically whatever is behind your eyes seeing right now, will perceive reality not too much differently from a lower Dimension, it might have difficulty with higher Dimensions.  Basically due to the occurrence that Higher Dimensions can coherently navigate lower Dimensions nonlinearly, while lower dimensions have a hard but not impossible time discerning how higher Dimensions operate.  It's all One, it's not that different (even if it is worlds/galaxies/universes/realities/continuums apart...).

Though 'No-thing' is possible, it is paradox, it can be, but will still be some-thing, it is not the TRUE ABSOLUTE ABSENCE OF, where a Void, or Primordial Void, or absolute Lack of Being is occurring.  It is simply another Unit for the Creator, it is 0, and I appreciate it and extend love out to even that contextual absence of, that illusion that is still being that is paradoxically not/is.  Nothing, is still Something.  Do you understand how I'm thinking?  No-thing, is still Some-thing because it is named, it has context added, it is imagined, it is outer space, it is a vacuum in space, it is the center of a black hole, it is everything to some people, nihilistic, pointless and empty, nothing worth it, and it is nothing to others, no sign of emptiness and nothingness.

Nothing does exist, and I will lovingly hold in that belief and tell you that not only will I remain in this belief, but point out that this belief actually adds up with yours.  You are saying that an absolute lack of being is impossible.  I agree.  You're saying an emptiness is not possible, I wholeheartedly disagree.  You then refer to it as attenuated truth, is that not 'something' then?  Nothing as Something is not Nothing, it is exactly what I said it is, a paradox, Something/Nothing.  A Somenothing of Attenuated Truth that aids the Light in the exact way you described.

You come off very forthcoming and powerful with disagreeing with another line of reasoning.  Saying it cannot be.  I just want to point out that All I Truly Know, is that I know nothing.  With this logic in mind I try to tread carefully when telling others that they're wrong.  I actually dislike doing so, I think there's a more positive way to approach the matter.  That however doesn't mean I don't refer to exactly what you're doing though, because it works.  It's powerful and insightful.  But I am too, I like to think anyways.

I believe in Simultaneity, that agrees with Unity and Infinity in design and concept.  It does not allow for whatever word you would use for the term void, without actually existing or not existing, but simply unbeing.  I think Doctor Who called it the Forgotten or Never-Were's?  No, wait, a better idea is the episode where the Dalek's build a Void Ship in order to set off a Reality Bomb to literally wipe out all Creation making them the One remaining Being -braingasm-
The concept simply cannot be for it all, Nothingness, Void, Emptiness, it all has context, inference, meaning, referent, it is attached, conceptually it is attached, contextually it is attached, it can manifest, it can Be.  But that other thing, that true emptiness and lack thereof beingness.  I don't have a word for whatever that is.  I don't know what to call it because it is not something I dare try to believe.  To mistake Nothingness for that is the madness I've read a few people have already gone through on this forum.  I'm one of them.

I must thus, fiercely contest that notion that the Nothingness I refer to is the nothingness you speak of.  As I said, you speak of something I do not have a word for.  Something you speak of I do not believe can be thought of.  I do think, I really do think Doctor Who had the closest concept to this idea, those things that Never-Were, that once were, but now have gone out of existence, have become gone, and never-were.  I do not think that is possible or true or real.  If anything, if there is a hellish empty void-pit of maddening horror, a real hell (which I don't but it's sometimes fun to imagine I guess).  The very center of it would be the closest thing to whatever that is that you speak of.