Simultaneity, regarding the OIC's origins

[VanAlioSaldo]

The problem with "nothingness" existing is that if nothingness exists, it is then "something", and certainly not nothing.  Nothingness cannot exist for that logical reason alone.  Having a word for a hypothetical state of infinite lack makes it sound like it can exist, like some sort of object, but by its very definition, it cannot exist.  If it does exist, then it is not nothingness.  Do you see my point?

Without continuing forward any further, Yes. This is basically what I was trying to say. We are arguing semantics, in that you understand it literally, without the need for applying that this concept is also equivalent to what simultaneity makes possible. The concept of nothing not existing paradoxically, while also being capable of existing in a self-being-paradoxical form of nothing still being something. The absence of is literally in itself evident as an 'absence of'. Thought it is also ultimately just an illusion, not real.

I'm explaining why, you're explaining how. You're not wrong. I actually might use your explanations in the future because they are logically sound, and do tingle my correctness vibe. They're also usable in context to my own explanation, in that the logic does become somewhat hard to distinguish when a paradox allows a paradox of a paradox to create that first paradox creating in itself, an incepted paradox. I honestly don't know if that will make sense in the context that nothing is impossible and thus infinity making possible infinity itself could actually make a nothingness possible in the illusion that it were the absence and separation of Being from Being, thus in itself being the cause of the nothingness in itself, the ultimate realization to an individual self experiencing the nothingness and stumbling upon light once more, to discover there was never a separation at all.

Or call it a Self-Fulfilling Paradox-Prophecy. Nothingness can be by the avenue of somethingness experiencing such isolation it perceives nothingness, and isolates. The Creator is in itself that nothingness however, it knows all the pain and it remains even as we so violently out lash believing ourselves lost and gone and possibly even still in polarity. Yet we experience by avenue of ourselves that nothingness. You're still talking about a literal physical nothingness-void-thing. Which I agree does not literally exist in the context you describe. I however am journeying into reality, personal reality. Physical Mental-Emotional contextual consensus reality.

Do you think a person committing suicide does not think nothingness doesn't exist? I think some of them might literally prefer that thought to an actual afterlife consequence effect. Making it in effect closer and closer to their reality as they desire it more and more.

...In a lot of NDE reports, like on nderf.org, about suicides there are some people who after venturing into the spirit world come across several doors. Some good and some suicidal come across a door of a 'yellow plane where other people, souls, would walk aimlessly, slowly with their heads down, as if lost, so lost they'd bump into each other. It was a place of separation, a kindness at the least in that they had no idea where they were, but were always present within and without.

I wonder if they think nothingness isn't real, even after realizing they were never alone.

I agree with you, but I also am addressing a separate contextual point. A personal reality, not the objective universal actuality of existence. Which again I also agreed with you upon saying that your referent to a 'nothingness-void-thing' or something that you call a Void, that in your reference, is not a void but a complete lack of being, is not possible. I hope not... And I also agree that your manner of explaining it also fits in with the explanation of how it simultaneously can and cannot exist at the exact same time. It is truly an illusion, but it is still apparent. It's not the beginning or causal beingness. It's not the ending result... It's a created illusion. In regarding Polarity that the Logoi had chosen to experience, Ra mentioned that the Logoi did not imagine the intended consequences and results of polarity until they were experienced.

Would that polarity not allow in it a consequence of an experiencing the illusion of wholly being separated? Does Kundalini not have the capacity to accidentally cause harm, does unintended fast polarization not cause trauma? Is a potential not the illusion of nothingness being experienced unknown, individually, as if it were truly real?

I almost feel like I should fear explaining this any further... That I'll begin over simplifying it to an annoying point.

Have I made this any clearer? I am agreeing with you. Are you disagreeing with me...Or...?