Simultaneity, regarding the OIC's origins

[anagogy]

Do you think a person committing suicide does not think nothingness doesn't exist?  I think some of them might literally prefer that thought to an actual afterlife consequence effect.  Making it in effect closer and closer to their reality as they desire it more and more.

...In a lot of NDE reports, like on nderf.org, about suicides there are some people who after venturing into the spirit world come across several doors.  Some good and some suicidal come across a door of a 'yellow plane where other people, souls, would walk aimlessly, slowly with their heads down, as if lost, so lost they'd bump into each other.  It was a place of separation, a kindness at the least in that they had no idea where they were, but were always present within and without.

I wonder if they think nothingness isn't real, even after realizing they were never alone.

I think it would depend on the experiencer, but one thing to keep in mind about NDE reports (and as an aside, I find such accounts absolutely fascinating by the way), is that the experience that any given person has during an NDE is still being processed through a physical brain.  There are a lot of intangible time/space experiences that do not correctly translate down to the physical level of perception, so the experience that is related is often their physical perspectives best job at translating the "untranslatable".  Meaning, they are not necessarily completely accurate representations of what happened.

The same goes for dreaming.  And astral projection.  What we call "dreaming" is often just the last ditch interpretation of time/space events by the space/time perspective of consciousness, to try and make the intangible vibrational experience understandable to the tangible personality.  The distortions of the egoic personality will naturally clothe the intangible in the symbolic ward robe of 3-dimensional imagery, but they are not always the most accurate representations.  I don't say this to invalidate anything, just as an interesting perspective to keep in mind, when perusing any personal anecdote or experience of another.  What is consciousness if not perspective?

Would that polarity not allow in it a consequence of an experiencing the illusion of wholly being separated?  Does Kundalini not have the capacity to accidentally cause harm, does unintended fast polarization not cause trauma?  Is a potential not the illusion of nothingness being experienced unknown, individually, as if it were truly real?

Well, the illusion of That Which is Not can only be taken so far.  That Which Is can explore a continuum of imaginary lack to a certain point, but it cannot imagine a state of complete and total lack.  A more simple way of saying this is that Existence cannot fully imagine Nonexistence (infinite lack).  Because that would necessitate the complete extinguishing of awareness, which is simply not possible from my perspective.  The best it can do is pretend to be unconscious, which is not true unconsciousness (more like a lack of collecting of memory images is the best it can approximate).  For example, a lot of people think they lose consciousness when they go to sleep.  In reality, they do not.  Absence of memory is not memory of absence.  You never stop being "aware".

It is a little like a nightmare you are having and then suddenly wake up in bed, realizing you were never really where you thought you were.  You were safe in bed the whole time, just having a dream.

I almost feel like I should fear explaining this any further... That I'll begin over simplifying it to an annoying point.

Have I made this any clearer?  I am agreeing with you.  Are you disagreeing with me...Or...?

No worries, friend.  It is unlikely you will annoy me.  I actually quite enjoy your thought processes, they fill me with fondness as they remind me of myself at your age.  These metaphysical concepts we are exploring in this thread fill me with absolute joy as we meticulously explore all the little nooks and crannies of them.  All is well, we are with infinite intelligence in these honest seekings of the heart of all existence.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing or agreeing with anything you've said, I simply see opportunities to offer a certain perspective. An opportunity I wholeheartedly welcome. I sincerely appreciate the opportunities you present to me.

One difference between us I have noticed is that you seem to have a fondness for paradoxes.  I do not believe in paradoxes.  In unity, all paradoxes are resolved.  The perception of paradox is the perception of distortion.  When the distortion is resolved, so also is the seeming paradox.  

I welcome your thoughts on this perspective.