03-19-2009, 12:22 AM
This perspective on t/s and s/t brings to mind experiences with mind altering substances. I mention this due to (albeit very minor and past) personal experience (and also atypical) with a well known herb. At the time I was hyper focused on being conscious of its affect (and how it differed from experiences with alcohol). Due to this, I had 0 affect in the first say 20 minutes, and subsequently repeated to determine if I would have any noticeable response at all. After standing up, and walking around, I had an immediate reaction with two metaphysical experiences I recall with great clarity:
1. Time took on what I recently have associated with a longitudinal wave like quality. That is it was both compressed and stretched in a 'wave' pattern (along with my ability to 'be'). It's difficult to describe, but reminds me of this reciprocal nature, like rhythmically bouncing between t/s and s/t. The effect was I would have compressed moments of clarity where I was 'in the moment' and could describe things conversationally but like I was on extra caffeine, followed by moments where I couldn't move or speak hardly at all, but only witness with abstract wonder things in a manner I wouldn't otherwise notice. It was an experience I had struggled to figure out, but this thread brought it back to me with new relevance. Also, I notably had a strikingly strong interest in music, like I was actually hearing it for the first time, much more so than previously.
2. A friend's head distorted during a conversation such that the top half of his head was cartoonishly larger than the rest of his head (as if it were temporarily encompassed in an upside down triangle) We both remember me relating this to him, I said he looked like a 'mad scientist' after trying to wrap my mind around it as it was visibly as 'real' as anything I have ever seen.
I wouldn't normally have brought this up here, but I personally found it similar to an NDE in it's affect on my view of the metaphysical world (albeit without the positive spiritual component other meditative experiences have held for me metaphysically) afterward. Also, as I mentioned above, the longitudinal wave aspect to the manner in which time and space were altered during the experience I felt worth noting here.
Peace and Joy,
Jason
1. Time took on what I recently have associated with a longitudinal wave like quality. That is it was both compressed and stretched in a 'wave' pattern (along with my ability to 'be'). It's difficult to describe, but reminds me of this reciprocal nature, like rhythmically bouncing between t/s and s/t. The effect was I would have compressed moments of clarity where I was 'in the moment' and could describe things conversationally but like I was on extra caffeine, followed by moments where I couldn't move or speak hardly at all, but only witness with abstract wonder things in a manner I wouldn't otherwise notice. It was an experience I had struggled to figure out, but this thread brought it back to me with new relevance. Also, I notably had a strikingly strong interest in music, like I was actually hearing it for the first time, much more so than previously.
2. A friend's head distorted during a conversation such that the top half of his head was cartoonishly larger than the rest of his head (as if it were temporarily encompassed in an upside down triangle) We both remember me relating this to him, I said he looked like a 'mad scientist' after trying to wrap my mind around it as it was visibly as 'real' as anything I have ever seen.
I wouldn't normally have brought this up here, but I personally found it similar to an NDE in it's affect on my view of the metaphysical world (albeit without the positive spiritual component other meditative experiences have held for me metaphysically) afterward. Also, as I mentioned above, the longitudinal wave aspect to the manner in which time and space were altered during the experience I felt worth noting here.
Peace and Joy,
Jason