05-23-2015, 04:04 AM
I didn't mean to say mind/body/spirit complexes are archetypes, but oriented by archetypes. So mind/body/spirit oriented archetypes.
However, that's not archetype like one we'd utilize, but archetype in the etymological sense I suppose that the mind/body/spirit is a construct of an archetypical nature (in my eyes) that is needed, and utilized, similarly to such archetypes.
So a mind/body/spirit archetypical orientation is in a sense a mind that interfaces with reality, a body that interacts with reality, and a spirit that manifests reality as it's needed. So a Simultaneity that is (and I will stress this) not time, but allows for Time, an Infinity that allows for Space, and a Unity that allows for Experience. These are extremely dull concepts though, it'd be closer to Simultaneity allows for the instance of say, a One Creator traveling down it's path, then meeting it's future self that interacts with it's current path, and then later down the path may once again experience what was already experienced, but now from the other end in order to get the full spectrum of experience, while still being the One being aiding yourself. Simultaneity allows for such paradoxes as self meeting, and aiding self. It allows for the Self to do anything with the Self in an array of experiences that we as Human's thought wouldn't make plausible sense. Like meeting yourself as a 6D entity while 3D, and then eventually making it to 6D, reexperiences a prior 3D experience from the 6D perspective, or 5D if you want to make it less united with more Doctor Whosits-like feel.
Imagine if your future self could travel through time, and was you but amnesiac so was a different person from you. They could come back in time, aid you in the present, not remember it, and still not break the universe because simultaneity not only allows paradoxes, it also basically resolves them all by saying, paradoxes are not real, they're simultaneity's illusion.
Similarly like we understand Time and Space as not real, we have Infinity and Unity, which are not synonymous for us, but may be in the sense of what Ra was saying, but I do not think synonymous is the correct word to use regarding the comparison of Unity with Infinity, you need to reference Unity as Infinite because the Universe is Infinite in the sense of it's being fractal-like repeating endlessly. Infinity is not Unity, infinity is United though, and Unity takes on its own inference from Infinity. Infinity references Unity, Unity infers Infinity. The two are closely related because the Universe is actually United by Awareness and Consciousness, which could simply mean the Original Thought, as it spreads, is spreading Consciousness by merely providing Awareness to the Presence Available Without Conscious Awareness. Ra has said that absence or chaos becomes ordered and reflective by Love/Light, does that mean everything is Alive and simply Unity implies those areas that are Aware and organizing into Awareness inside of Infinity? Furthermore does it imply that Awareness is a Reflective and Ordered structure of being?
I view it as, if it's fractal like, a concept such as a mind/body/spirit can be available in other ways. Maybe a S/I/U structure isn't wholly correct, but I feel like it may not be completely wrong to view this with the past in mind. Patterns repeat endlessly in Fractals, we have the Golden Spiral (singular pointed with an upward spiral in either direction, and equally attractive to my brain), we have Triads (pretty~) and Octaves (sexy~), and then we have a lot of distortions of many repeated things to look completely new. Is a m/b/s complex new, or being repeated, if so, what can I learn from the prior, what's new now, what is being added on now to be experienced later?
If it is any of that, I wouldn't feel too off by saying that perhaps another such complex on a much more massive scale exists, which may be no different from its perspective from our scale from our perspective, or basically it scales reciprocally, the more advanced you are the more you perceive but the more there is to perceive that you can see, the universe doesn't get smaller as you get bigger, it stays constant and relative across all areas of the scale perhaps because we could view it all in the sense of...
We're building and creating as we go, but it's also already built and made and coming back to interact with us to recreate and reexperience itself to currently and constantly and always be bettering its self and growing and learning no matter from what area in Creation in Space or Time in space/time or time/space at any Octave in any Density. Simultaneity, Infinity, and Unity, allow for a pretty action packed and fast paced evolution when you look at them across an octave interacting with all other parts (6D to 3D, 5th to 4th, 3D to 6D, 5D to 3D, 2D to 3D, 3D to 1D, 6D to 2D, it's all there, and 7D encompasses it all happening).
So we get some huge depth in just this octave, we go from being the literal sparks and gusts of planets growing in 1D, to the total expression of Existence in 7D that encompasses the Fire all the way to the becoming a portion of your own Totality which directed you, as you directed it. All the way to comprising the manifest being perhaps. Ra says they don't plumb the next Octave but know enough about it to provide some details on Guardians and directing Light into our Octave (which tells me from the next octave we may begin going into multiple Creations, or a universe comprised of Universes on a scale too huge for us to even comprehend from our...current 'mass' if you'll consider the gaining of spiritual mass in 7D an indication of literal growth to a new level of perspective, where our current Universe may even appear...Small or containable in contrast to the new perspective of it from a 7D or 8D Perspective.
I'm not certain I drew many functions from those two triads per say, but as you see, my views tell me a story of possibilities. I think the Universe is closer to one thing, being experienced, over and over in various distortions, pulling the consciousness back to Source where it started moving away from ever so long ago, and may even still be doing.
But in the Cyclical nature of being, we start from a point that can be seen as a source, and we move away from that source to a complete opposite of source (I think this octave that may have begun or is already occurring) until we begin to reseek the source having found ourselves 'lost', only to naturally and inevitably as we always would, fall back into the source having grown along the way.
But then again I also think we go through 8 Major Octaves as one Creation before the Original Thought is re-coalesced into One to be re-created and re-experienced. And I think this may be the 4th Major Octave now that we're at points where complete forgetting is being utilized to push for faster experience gain.
But keep in mind, each Major Octave would work with each other in a S/I/U beingness concept. So even though we're in the 4th (I think), the prior is still effecting us, as is the Octave above us, and it may not even be the 8th Density above us that leads into the next Major Octave, it could simply lead into the next Sub-Octave of the next Big Octave.
For clarity sake. You have Our Octave, we'll call it the 4th Major Octave, I'm not referring to our 3D sub-octave bearing Octave, but what our Octave is contained inside of, which that Octave is then held inside the Major Octave.
So we're on Major Octave Density 4, containing Big Octave...We'll say Density 5, which contains Our Octave where many of us are at Sub-Octave 6 experiencing Incarnation in Sub-Octave 3. (omfg how the hell does Ra translate Chakras across Densities?!?!?!! I can barely explain nested Octaves... It's like subnetting almost!)
so...
Major 1-8 containing a nested Big 1-8 containing a nested Minor (Current) 1-8, which contains inside each, more 1-8 within itself, going on endlessly. But I think at the Major 1-8 Octave at the very top of the Octave System, we have a wrapping around from the most Minor smallest Octave on the bottom. Or basically it's like the Atoms that make up the Sun, consciousness can be seen as starting at the level below those Atoms, and progressing to a level above that Sun. The depth of scale can be endless, Space and Time are illusion, there is no limit on how big or small something can get.
So there shouldn't be a limit on Octaves but there should be a cyclical means of deriving through patterns remembered from past and being re-experienced in distorted or 'new' ways to continually aid in seeing the unknown that exists not only as that unknown being explored, but those aspects of self in unimaginable ways being stumbled upon by surprise across the whole spectrum.
The current system seems good enough. A few areas within might need tweaking but overall.
Even for Earth...And it's horrors as I see them. The One Infinite Creator has a pretty good system going on, whether created that way originally or tweaked across infinity. I'm very happy to be in a Creation composed of Love, rather than say, Warhammer40k's Creation, which terrifies me that infinity implies that entire fictional universe could actually be real, potentially but probably not practically.
That got pretty long but it felt fresh, I hope it helps everyone understand my views a bit better.
However, that's not archetype like one we'd utilize, but archetype in the etymological sense I suppose that the mind/body/spirit is a construct of an archetypical nature (in my eyes) that is needed, and utilized, similarly to such archetypes.
So a mind/body/spirit archetypical orientation is in a sense a mind that interfaces with reality, a body that interacts with reality, and a spirit that manifests reality as it's needed. So a Simultaneity that is (and I will stress this) not time, but allows for Time, an Infinity that allows for Space, and a Unity that allows for Experience. These are extremely dull concepts though, it'd be closer to Simultaneity allows for the instance of say, a One Creator traveling down it's path, then meeting it's future self that interacts with it's current path, and then later down the path may once again experience what was already experienced, but now from the other end in order to get the full spectrum of experience, while still being the One being aiding yourself. Simultaneity allows for such paradoxes as self meeting, and aiding self. It allows for the Self to do anything with the Self in an array of experiences that we as Human's thought wouldn't make plausible sense. Like meeting yourself as a 6D entity while 3D, and then eventually making it to 6D, reexperiences a prior 3D experience from the 6D perspective, or 5D if you want to make it less united with more Doctor Whosits-like feel.
Imagine if your future self could travel through time, and was you but amnesiac so was a different person from you. They could come back in time, aid you in the present, not remember it, and still not break the universe because simultaneity not only allows paradoxes, it also basically resolves them all by saying, paradoxes are not real, they're simultaneity's illusion.
Similarly like we understand Time and Space as not real, we have Infinity and Unity, which are not synonymous for us, but may be in the sense of what Ra was saying, but I do not think synonymous is the correct word to use regarding the comparison of Unity with Infinity, you need to reference Unity as Infinite because the Universe is Infinite in the sense of it's being fractal-like repeating endlessly. Infinity is not Unity, infinity is United though, and Unity takes on its own inference from Infinity. Infinity references Unity, Unity infers Infinity. The two are closely related because the Universe is actually United by Awareness and Consciousness, which could simply mean the Original Thought, as it spreads, is spreading Consciousness by merely providing Awareness to the Presence Available Without Conscious Awareness. Ra has said that absence or chaos becomes ordered and reflective by Love/Light, does that mean everything is Alive and simply Unity implies those areas that are Aware and organizing into Awareness inside of Infinity? Furthermore does it imply that Awareness is a Reflective and Ordered structure of being?
I view it as, if it's fractal like, a concept such as a mind/body/spirit can be available in other ways. Maybe a S/I/U structure isn't wholly correct, but I feel like it may not be completely wrong to view this with the past in mind. Patterns repeat endlessly in Fractals, we have the Golden Spiral (singular pointed with an upward spiral in either direction, and equally attractive to my brain), we have Triads (pretty~) and Octaves (sexy~), and then we have a lot of distortions of many repeated things to look completely new. Is a m/b/s complex new, or being repeated, if so, what can I learn from the prior, what's new now, what is being added on now to be experienced later?
If it is any of that, I wouldn't feel too off by saying that perhaps another such complex on a much more massive scale exists, which may be no different from its perspective from our scale from our perspective, or basically it scales reciprocally, the more advanced you are the more you perceive but the more there is to perceive that you can see, the universe doesn't get smaller as you get bigger, it stays constant and relative across all areas of the scale perhaps because we could view it all in the sense of...
We're building and creating as we go, but it's also already built and made and coming back to interact with us to recreate and reexperience itself to currently and constantly and always be bettering its self and growing and learning no matter from what area in Creation in Space or Time in space/time or time/space at any Octave in any Density. Simultaneity, Infinity, and Unity, allow for a pretty action packed and fast paced evolution when you look at them across an octave interacting with all other parts (6D to 3D, 5th to 4th, 3D to 6D, 5D to 3D, 2D to 3D, 3D to 1D, 6D to 2D, it's all there, and 7D encompasses it all happening).
So we get some huge depth in just this octave, we go from being the literal sparks and gusts of planets growing in 1D, to the total expression of Existence in 7D that encompasses the Fire all the way to the becoming a portion of your own Totality which directed you, as you directed it. All the way to comprising the manifest being perhaps. Ra says they don't plumb the next Octave but know enough about it to provide some details on Guardians and directing Light into our Octave (which tells me from the next octave we may begin going into multiple Creations, or a universe comprised of Universes on a scale too huge for us to even comprehend from our...current 'mass' if you'll consider the gaining of spiritual mass in 7D an indication of literal growth to a new level of perspective, where our current Universe may even appear...Small or containable in contrast to the new perspective of it from a 7D or 8D Perspective.
I'm not certain I drew many functions from those two triads per say, but as you see, my views tell me a story of possibilities. I think the Universe is closer to one thing, being experienced, over and over in various distortions, pulling the consciousness back to Source where it started moving away from ever so long ago, and may even still be doing.
But in the Cyclical nature of being, we start from a point that can be seen as a source, and we move away from that source to a complete opposite of source (I think this octave that may have begun or is already occurring) until we begin to reseek the source having found ourselves 'lost', only to naturally and inevitably as we always would, fall back into the source having grown along the way.
But then again I also think we go through 8 Major Octaves as one Creation before the Original Thought is re-coalesced into One to be re-created and re-experienced. And I think this may be the 4th Major Octave now that we're at points where complete forgetting is being utilized to push for faster experience gain.
But keep in mind, each Major Octave would work with each other in a S/I/U beingness concept. So even though we're in the 4th (I think), the prior is still effecting us, as is the Octave above us, and it may not even be the 8th Density above us that leads into the next Major Octave, it could simply lead into the next Sub-Octave of the next Big Octave.
For clarity sake. You have Our Octave, we'll call it the 4th Major Octave, I'm not referring to our 3D sub-octave bearing Octave, but what our Octave is contained inside of, which that Octave is then held inside the Major Octave.
So we're on Major Octave Density 4, containing Big Octave...We'll say Density 5, which contains Our Octave where many of us are at Sub-Octave 6 experiencing Incarnation in Sub-Octave 3. (omfg how the hell does Ra translate Chakras across Densities?!?!?!! I can barely explain nested Octaves... It's like subnetting almost!)
so...
Major 1-8 containing a nested Big 1-8 containing a nested Minor (Current) 1-8, which contains inside each, more 1-8 within itself, going on endlessly. But I think at the Major 1-8 Octave at the very top of the Octave System, we have a wrapping around from the most Minor smallest Octave on the bottom. Or basically it's like the Atoms that make up the Sun, consciousness can be seen as starting at the level below those Atoms, and progressing to a level above that Sun. The depth of scale can be endless, Space and Time are illusion, there is no limit on how big or small something can get.
So there shouldn't be a limit on Octaves but there should be a cyclical means of deriving through patterns remembered from past and being re-experienced in distorted or 'new' ways to continually aid in seeing the unknown that exists not only as that unknown being explored, but those aspects of self in unimaginable ways being stumbled upon by surprise across the whole spectrum.
The current system seems good enough. A few areas within might need tweaking but overall.
Even for Earth...And it's horrors as I see them. The One Infinite Creator has a pretty good system going on, whether created that way originally or tweaked across infinity. I'm very happy to be in a Creation composed of Love, rather than say, Warhammer40k's Creation, which terrifies me that infinity implies that entire fictional universe could actually be real, potentially but probably not practically.
That got pretty long but it felt fresh, I hope it helps everyone understand my views a bit better.