(03-18-2009, 08:35 PM)MisterRabbit Wrote: So here is my question...how is it that when we die, that which rises up and views our body is our t/s self? I mean...that makes it seem like another s/t, but then I also know that the point is they are supposed to go into the lightm and thereby to s/t I guess. So...I guess it all comes back to that boger time, and trying to imagine it as a vector. Ra's and NDE experiencers' descriptions are the closest I've come to being able to try and imagine it. But this last post definitely did make some advances in that endeavor for me. thank you
This is a question I'm still wrestling with myself. My intuitive feeling is that what leaves the body after death, or travels in OBE's and NDE's is really an aspect of the spirit, which I believe transcends s/t and t/s. I've been trying to reconcile this with LOO and Beyond Space and Time, and frankly I'm having trouble finding specific references in Ra's words. There are times when Ra implies such an existence, but others where he states categorically that t/s is the entire metaphysical plane.
Dewey points to three separate planes though, the physical (s/t), the cosmic (t/s) and the metaphysical wherein he concludes our ethical or moral behavior originates. Using parallels to TLOO, the material would be the realm of the body, the cosmic would be the realm of the mind, and the metaphysical would be the realm of the spirit.
(03-19-2009, 05:26 AM)biknewb Wrote: Imagining t/s would be easier if we could replace our s/t word "location" with a t/s equivalent.
I've wrestled with this several times myself (pun intended). How about a "moment" in t/s and a "location" in s/t? This word is fairly simple and one that we are used to associating with time. It also has, to me at least, the advantage of pulling together the time and space elements, since I'm used to thinking of the moment as having aspects of both.
As MisterRabbit pointed out, this would actually leave our word "location" somewhat lacking since it's association with time is more assumed in our current world, but I think we can live with it.
MisterRabbit Wrote:I'll leave that one up to 3D, since he's the teach/learner in this thread.
I do appreciate that compliment, but we are each playing both the role of teach / learner and learn / teacher here. Whatever tricks have come forward to give us each a better grasp of these concepts, have mostly come from a larger source than my mind. I have been tapping in to a consciousness with a greater comprehension of the material than I have organically (a lot of my analogies are coming directly from dreams or images received during meditation). I must say that having this forum has made the concepts and relationships of RST and TLOO even more clear to me, and that was my primary purpose for starting the thread.
As to how we proceed from here, I can suggest a few directions, and would appreciate your feedback.
- Back to the basics of RTS - the photon, the atom and building of molecules from "Nothing but Motion"
- Deeper into the metaphysical aspects of RST that Dewey explores in "Beyond Space and Time".
- Explore more synergies between LOO and RTS.
Let me know,
3D Sunset