(03-21-2009, 11:18 AM)Richard Wrote: Quantum wrote:
It might be said that Life itself is a metaphor, if you will. Perhaps, a metaphor for the Spirit. It would stand to reason then, as Monica shared, that the metaphor would be in all the great scriptural works of each religion, shared only in a different manner for a different culture in a different time, but always the same story of sorts.
(03-21-2009, 11:18 AM)Richard Wrote: I think "all" religions, all "belief" systems...LOO included, are metaphors for attempting to explain the unexplainable. Even at Ra's and Quo's advanced stages, they are still using their own metaphor to describe an infinite journey to the source. If we, as Quo seems to say, cannot comprehend the full essense of the 4th dimensional experience...it very well may be as much a mystery to the Ra energies to experience to the next stage.
They attempt to assist us having..walked?..LOL...our road. But their advancement is as much a metaphor as ours is. We are all in the same boat...but our staterooms a few decks down.
Richard
Nice poetic note from you micjer as relates to the the Oz youtube clip. Thank you. And to you Richard, as nice of a metaphor above of 'all being in the same boat but in staterooms at lower levels'. As to your statement, also above, "it very well may be as much a mystery to the Ra energies to experience the next stage", it seems that you may indeed rest assured that your radar intuiter is functioning at maximum output as noted in the Ra quote below.
Ra: I am Ra. The path of our learning is graven in the present moment. There is no history, as we understand your concept. Picture, if you will, a circle of being. We know the alpha and omega as infinite intelligence. The circle never ceases. It is present. The densities we have traversed at various points in the circle correspond to the characteristics of cycles: first, the cycle of awareness; second, the cycle of growth; third, the cycle of self-awareness; fourth, the cycle of love or understanding; fifth, the cycle of light or wisdom; sixth, the cycle of light/love, love/light or unity; seventh, the gateway cycle; eighth, the octave which moves into a mystery we do not plumb.
It seems by virtue of Ra themselves that we may infer that we can peer no further than into the very point we presently are and find ourselves in...i.e., now(?). Now, this brings up an interesting point, if not at least a subtle consideration. If the the next octave which moves into a mystery Ra does not plumb (eighth, one simple density above their own), then what does this say about our desire(s) to plumb into densities beyond our own humble reach, and as many as several more beyond our simple grasps behind that? Although we dare, do we simply do so for entertainment purposes? Is there a value in the attempt, or may it be a distraction from fully and completely engaging in this the third?
Or is it that eighth holds a special coordinate by virtue of it being what we in 3rd have assumed is last? But, it is not last, by virtue of octaves (and presumably densities) being infinite? We know this from the readings, and even more so that Ra (yes Ra) has teachers by the following:
Questioner: Are you saying then that there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through eight?
Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an infinite number of octaves.
However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said, clad in mystery.
Now, heres the Krazy part (and I mean crazy with a "k").
If all consciousness periodically coalesces, and again begins anew, is it possible we've even done this before...all of it (?), as in the whole "THIS" of 1-8, and infinitely forward to more 1-8's, ultimately coalescing, merging, and beginning anew all over again (?), just to do it again, and again, and again?
There would seem little purpose in simply running circles of repetition ad nauseum. If I would get bored in this, I imagine the Creator would tire of it on an even grander scale of incomprehensible doldrums. So, perhaps we do it from yet ever higher levels of 1-8's forever (?), spinning and progressing on ever higher spirals, rather than repetitious repeating circles, ever higher, ever forward, and forever onward?
It would seem so by virtue of Ra's words above. Thank you for stimulating the dizzying-ness effect by stimulating the question Richard, and to you micjer for prodding me to Oz in thought.
Blown away, dizzy from the maybe's, and gleefully lost in the conjectures.....:idea:
Q