(07-28-2015, 10:02 AM)Matt1 Wrote: Self Awareness is of 3rd density, not second.
No, Self-awareness is the criteria for getting to 3D. It is developed in 2D.
Just like love/green ray activation is the criteria for 4D. Yet we do experience love and an open heart in 3D, no?
Animals are late 2D, nearing the level of self-awareness to go to 3D, just as many humans are late 3D, nearing sufficient green ray activation to go to 4D.
This thread explores these concepts in depth:
Bring4th Forums One > Strictly Law of One Material v > Ra's Statements About 2D Entities
(07-28-2015, 10:02 AM)Matt1 Wrote: We are not torturing second density animals, we are using them as a food source to fuel the body. They are grown and then killed to be ate. If one was to torture an animal it would be consider animal abuse by law in most countries, this isn't the case.
My goodness, please get educated about the meat/dairy industry! You are so mistaken!
Here, these will help you understand:
Meet Your Meat
Bacon in 60 Seconds Flat
Chicken in 60 Seconds Flat
The Dairy Industry in 60 Seconds Flat
(07-28-2015, 10:02 AM)Matt1 Wrote: The humans are unique i wouldn't over generalize in saying that nobody will benefit from eating a meat based diet. Sure you can be Veggie or Vegan and survive, that doesn't mean it will work for every bodies unique needs.
Human dietary needs vary somewhat, mostly due to the overconsumption of processed foods. However, NO human ever needs meat or dairy. It's simple physiology and this fact has been scientifically proven. It's pretty irrefutable. The only nutrient not found in plants is vitamin B12, and that's only because we no longer eat dirt. If we didn't wash our produce, our gut could synthesize B12 from dirt bacteria, just like animals do. So, that is the one nutrient we do have to supplement. Thankfully, it's very cheap and easy to do.
Now, many people think they need it, but they just aren't educated about how to get their nutrients from plants.
(07-28-2015, 10:02 AM)Matt1 Wrote: I understand you asked me a direct question and i directly gave you an answer to it, by pointing out if your going to reject clear information given, what would be the point it sharing it.
I never reject quotes from Ra. I do, however, reject making blanket statements based on single quotes without balancing those with other quotes.
The Ra Material is obviously subject to interpretation.
In the spirit of considering multiple quotes together, I asked you a direct question about where Ra ever said that.
As I recall, Ra only said that about higher STS entities. If you find another quote where Ra said that higher STO entities feed off of the energies of humans, then please share it with me.
(07-28-2015, 10:02 AM)Matt1 Wrote: 4th Density negative beings do feed off negative energies, and loosh is a general concept that exists outside of the Law of One, its common in most esoterica/occultism.
The 3rd density beings learn to deal with and it promotes further growth and development. This can be seen likewise with Animals.
Yes, indeed. But the point is that you seemed to be trying to justify humans feeding off the fear and suffering of animals, on the basis that 4D STS beings feed off the fear and suffering of humans.
If that's the case, then I ask you: Why do you want to emulate 4D negative beings?