Quote:Apparently you've never had a dog or cat...? and apparently you haven't watched the videos...their self-awareness is obvious.
Did you know that more and more video footage is becoming available of animals showing compassion towards other animals?
Yeah, no kidding! Swans feeding goldfish...bears saving drowning birds...birds picking up human trash and putting it in the trash can...dogs trying to put a dying fish back into the water...cows helping other cows escape or drink water...rats would rather give up food than cause suffering to other rats...rats help other rats before feeding themselves...the list goes on and on.
There are LOTS of incidents like these being caught on camera. Not only are animals self-aware, but some of them are becoming increasingly aware of other animals too, even across species!
Ask any psychologist: It is well known that even human children aren't very aware of others. Toddlers go through the 'me me me' phase which any mother knows is the age of self-awareness and selfishness. Toddlers are notorious for being very self-centered and must be taught to share.
These animals are demonstrating more self-awareness than human toddlers!
It is well documented. I started a thread about it awhile back: Animals Helping Other Animals or something like that. (Or maybe it was the '2D Animals Evolving'...not sure.)
I used to have a Dog, he was disabled and we had to carry him places. I was fond of him. However this is similar to the idea of 4th density entities working directly with 3rd density. In such a case we help the animals grow and progress. This cannot be said about all animals outside of domesticated house pets.
Those aren't signs of true self awareness, any animal can go pick up something and move it about. I am not talking about toddlers nor have I heard that as a proven psychological fact. I am talking directly about the eating of meat and self awareness. Being self centred doesn't make a toddler on par with the consciousness of an animal.
Quote:Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that they have a nervous system and pain receptors. They feel pain and they feel emotions. I started a thread about that too: Something about the complex emotions of animals. This demonstrates self-awareness.
Animals can feel pain I agree, however the process for killing animals for food as I have said is regulated here to cause the minimum degree of suffering possible. The emotional awareness of an animal, cannot be the same as an entity in 3rd density, else they would not be a 2nd density entity.
Quote:No, not at all. Only commentary can have bias. There is very little commentary. It's simple video footage.
Videos can't be biased. Watch the videos and see for yourself if you don't believe me!
Videos can be edited and directed in certain ways to be biased, this is fairly obvious.
Quote:That is rapidly changing. Here in the US, and in other countries too, more and more family farms are being bought by big corporations, and millions of animals are literally tortured - yes tortured - on a daily basis. Please watch the videos and open your eyes.
We still have many family farms here in the UK. If there is an issue with the processing of animals, then the regulations simply need a changing or farms given an audit to allow for the best methods to be used. I am sure this happens in most countries. Normally if you have a business in that type of sector you will have laws and regulations to work with.
Quote:It is absolutely accepted and in fact is normal procedure. What's more, there are laws prohibiting people from documenting and reporting abuses. Even more heinous, farm animals are exempt from animal cruelty laws. In other words, someone can go to prison for abusing a dog, but farmers can abuse cows, pigs and chickens all they want, without fear of penalty. It's standard practice.
It's impossible to understand unless you actually SEE it. The videos will show you what I'm talking about.
I have watched your PETA videos. The processing of the animals in those video does seem some what over the top, in the UK I don't believe we have those methods. I can see farm animals in fields not far from my house. They stay there mostly all the time. Until they are taken for butchering. However that doesn't stop the eating of free ranged and organic meats as a better means to the mass farming processing.
Quote:Self awareness is only available once second density entities reach 3rd density, this has already been shown previously.
People see only what they which to see in those videos rather than any direct acts of self awareness in the 3rd density sense. House pets are of a higher incarnation or sub density of 2nd density who are close to moving onto 3rd, thus work directly with humans.
Monica, here is a direct question. Do you think someone can graduate into 4th density from 3rd density while eating meats and not being a vegetation or vegan?