07-30-2015, 12:04 AM
(07-29-2015, 10:12 PM)Aion Wrote: I'm not saying I dislike anything. I was just pointing out that Ra quotes are the basis for many explanations or positions but I don't think there is actually enough detail in the Ra quotes to explain the actual stances that different people have. The issue isn't the quotes or interpretation, its difference in personal philosophy. I am not saying one way or the other is better. By all means, quote away. I'm just saying that the quotes are secondary to the actual discussion going on.
I agree, but probably for a different reason. This is, presumably, supposed to be a Law of One study group, so it makes sense that people would quote Ra a lot. After all, we're supposedly studying the Material, so why not quote it, right?
But the reason I don't like the quoting isn't the quoting itself, but the way people are quoting the Material. Rather than taking all the relevant quotes about a particular topic together, and then combining them with additional quotes to flesh out the concept, people often just grab a single quote and use it to back up what they already believe.
I think the Material is too complex to do that.
On the other hand, though, sometimes there just isn't much to work with, as you say. Sometimes all we have is 1 or 2 quotes about a particular topic. That's when it's even more important to consider those quotes in the context of the whole of the Material.
A good example is the topic at hand: Meat. There are only 2 references to meat, so people often grab onto those 2 quotes and they're done. But meat isn't only about eating. Meat is also about killing, because without killing, there would be No meat!
Since killing is a necessary component of meat, then it begs the question: Who is being killed?
Which then leads to ==>> Animals!
And that topic - animals - actually gets quite a lot of coverage by Ra! Ra talks quite a lot about 2D entities. Hence, the topic of meat isn't a simple one, but a complex one, and what appears at first glance to be very sparse information (only 2 quotes) turns out to be quite a lot of information from Ra.
This is the difference between latching onto just the literal mention of a word, and actually researching the deeper concepts behind that particular topic.
So, whereas many people form their opinion (or justify an existing opinion) based on those 2 quotes only, I prefer to dig deeper into what Ra actually said about the source of meat: the animals.
And that's not even getting into what Ra said about Service to Others, of which they said a lot.
(07-29-2015, 10:12 PM)Aion Wrote: Also yes, I guess I misread your wording which seemed dismissive.
Sorry, that wasn't my intention!
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