Free Will Denial

[upensmoke]

Upensmoke, I agree, you are right, but that still does not mean something else came before Infinity.  I don't know how to properly explain this concept except that there is no such thing as Time, so how can anything be timeless?  It's more like it just IS.
So if Infinity is just IS, what else could possibly be just IS?

Now I know it makes no sense to say something came before something that always was, but linear logic may not make much sense in terms of just AS IS itself, so if something IS AS IS, could it be possible that it was JUST IS put there by something beyond timeless and just is?

lol you got me confused. I said its possible nothing came before or after. It always was. If something always was how would it be put their by something. that indicates a point when it wasn't.  Also time is an invention of man. linear time does not exist we created linear time. all time does is measure change. time is a distortion. Change is what exist change is what is true not time or timeless. 

also isn't everything Just IS?
 

Notice my word of choice, Beyond.  Possibly not even Before, but something past Infinity, something that Infinity only barely touches because it is as is, Infinite, and it is ALL things, but ALL things are One, and in that-- Illusion is possible, illusion of ALL, illusion of reality, illusion of illusion, paradox of illusion.  And it's all still real.  If everything is One, and that One is Love, and that Love is all, (or that Original Thought is All), does that mean that illusion is an illusion of an illusion of reality?

Let's just, and I'm not asking you to actually seriously consider this, but to just approach it with a very open mind, as Aion says, Destroy everything.  Destroy it all.  Once you destroy it all, approach this concept.

TTP What is Real to you ? what defines something as real for you ?
also im not sure i understand what aion is saying. what am i destroying ? and what is the concept ? am i destroying what i think i know about the concept, then approaching the concept again ? can you or aion elaborate a bit.

Everything is Existent, All Concepts, All Infinity, Infinity implies Unity, it does not imply it is singular beyond being One.  Can there be more than just one type of Infinity?  Something Beyond our Infinity, beyond parallel realities, something beyond parallel Original Thoughts, something beyond, beyond Allness, beyond Consciousness, Beyond Infinity, something...

Just Beyond.

What is it?  Can it enable me to look upon the Infinity, and finally know it in full in one fell swoop?  Will I discover the Absolute One Creator?  Will I find myself looking at myself?

What is it?  Beyond Infinity?  Can it be fathomable?  Thought of?  Can I ideate it?  Is it possible?  Did it make Infinity?  Is it as Buzz Lightyear says, Infinity and Beyond?

If there is more than one type of infinity does that mean they're separate ? if they're are not separate is it not still just infinity ? meaning isn't infinite infinities still equal to one infinity  
Are we not experiencing infinity and creating the beyond? 
Are you asking is their something separate from infinity ?